without official invitation letter and so, there is no merit in wasting in US embassy, they won't issue visa at all Mardetanha
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Re: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 (Mateus Nobre) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:17:26 +0300 > From: Mateus Nobre <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I think it's better you advance your visa... > > _____________________ > MateusNobre > MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects > (+55) 85 88393509 > 30440865 > > > From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 00:32:08 +0330 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 > > And I live in Iran, which US has no embassy, so I have travel to turkey or > UAE for the visa at least two times, to apply for the visa, 6 month is the > minimum time that i need to apply Mardetanha > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 12:19 AM, <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to > > [email protected] > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > [email protected] > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > [email protected] > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (Mateus Nobre) > > 2. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (Thomas Dalton) > > 3. Re: Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue (B?ria Lima) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:44:59 +0300 > > From: Mateus Nobre <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue > > To: <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > Yeah Thomas, I forgot that. > > It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two > months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other > countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky > and always can be denied. > > > > > > _____________________ > > MateusNobre > > MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects > > (+55) 85 88393509 > > 30440865 > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300 > > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists. > > > > A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could > avoid problems to Wikimania staff. > > > > _____________________ > > MateusNobre > > MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects > > (+55) 85 88393509 > > 30440865 > > > > > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue > > > > [email protected] is there for this. > > > > We also have [email protected] , [email protected] and > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada (if you can't > follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what else they can > be ;) ) > > > > _____ > > B?ria Lima > > (351) 925 171 484 > > > > Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que > estamos a fazer. > > > > > > > > > > On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this someone > may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some countries > is really hard.... > > > > > > > > _____________________ > > MateusNobre > > > > MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects > > (+55) 85 88393509 > > > > 30440865 > > > > > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000 > > From: [email protected] > > > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue > > > > How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are > made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the > scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for > visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you request > now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a > result for your application. > > > > > > _____ > > B?ria Lima > > (351) 925 171 484 > > > > Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que > estamos a fazer. > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington D.C.! > Yeah. > > > > But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it > but I wanna clarify to you. > > > > > > > > U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left > over need a visa to enter in. > > > > Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa (the best > moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops > :D) and WMF contacted me six months before. > > > > > > In this ''six months before'' have one problem. > > > > In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we take > 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil and > the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. > When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer of > Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We could > appeal, and would take more two months. > > > > > > > > > > It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And > happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A. > > > > I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. > Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US > really isn't easy. > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > _____________________ > > MateusNobre > > > > > > Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects > > (+55) 85 88393509 > > > > > > 30440865 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > > > Press ENTER to look up in Wiktionary or CTRL+ENTER to look up in Wikipedia > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20111101/0de8937c/attachment-0001.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:01 +0000 > > From: Thomas Dalton <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue > > To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > <CALTQccfrLdq-DxcO3bPiZg=3cJ7UhfG-rWhd13=PaQpND3=u...@mail.gmail.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yeah Thomas, I forgot that. > > > It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two > > > months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other > > > countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky > > > and always can be denied. > > > > I meant 2 months from now, so about 6 months before the conference. > > That should be enough time, but we would need to start accepting > > scholarship applications within the next week or two, really. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 3 > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:48:57 +0000 > > From: B?ria Lima <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue > > To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" > > <[email protected]> > > Message-ID: > > <caa2xhjbqhkvg7vaj2caiphbbdhzdt+onoxwfndmp9e-sgvw...@mail.gmail.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > Any visa can be denied, Mateus. And there are a waiting list for Wikimania > > scholarship. You don't need to worry, no scholarship will be wasted. > > _____ > > *B?ria Lima* > > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 > > > > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que > > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.* > > > > > > On 1 November 2011 20:44, Mateus Nobre <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Yeah Thomas, I forgot that. > > > It's prundet give the scolarschips to whom already have the visas. Two > > > months would be impossible normally (at least for Brazil, idk for other > > > countried visa-needed). We could request special priority, but it's risky > > > and always can be denied. > > > > > > _____________________ > > > MateusNobre > > > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects > > > (+55) 85 88393509 > > > 30440865 > > > * > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 23:41:09 +0300 > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue > > > > > > Yeah, but not all brazilians editors follow these lists. > > > > > > A good idea too give priority to whom already have the visa. This could > > > avoid problems to Wikimania staff. > > > > > > > > > _____________________ > > > MateusNobre > > > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects > > > (+55) 85 88393509 > > > 30440865 > > > * > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:36:20 +0000 > > > From: [email protected] > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue > > > > > > [email protected] is there for this. > > > > > > We also have [email protected] , [email protected] and > > > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Esplanada< > http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia%3aEsplanada>(if you can't > follow any of those list and is brasilian I don't know what > > > > > else they can be ;) ) > > > _____ > > > *B?ria Lima* > > > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 > > > > > > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > > > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que > > > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.* > > > > > > > > > On 1 November 2011 20:29, Mateus Nobre <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > For me it's easy. But it could catch someone by surprise and this > > > someone may not have the visa. And take a U.S. visa in six months in some > > > countries is really hard.... > > > > > > > > > _____________________ > > > MateusNobre > > > > > > *MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects > > > (+55) 85 88393509 > > > 30440865 > > > * > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 20:26:02 +0000 > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] Wikimania 2012: The Visas Issue > > > > > > How that can be possible if the answers to scholarship applications are > > > made in January - March? I would suggest to - If you applied for the > > > scholarship - send a mail to the USA embassy scheduling the request for > > > visa. If takes at least 3 months, will be done only in Feb (if you > request > > > now - December is a dead month in Brazil) and by them, you will have a > > > result for your application. > > > _____ > > > *B?ria Lima* > > > <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 > > > > > > *Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > > > livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. ? isso o que > > > estamos a fazer <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Nossos_projetos>.* > > > > > > > > > On 1 November 2011 20:20, Mateus Nobre <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#countries > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > As you know in 2012, United States will held Wikimania at Washington > D.C.! > > > Yeah. > > > > > > But make a Wikimania in U.S.A. have some problems, you probably know it > > > but I wanna clarify to you. > > > > > > U.S. just dispense visas to thirty-six nations. All of the dozens left > > > over need a visa to enter in. > > > > > > Last year I was selected to attend Wikimania 2011 at Haifa* (the best > > > moments ever in my life, btw, would love to support Washington too, ops > :D) > > > * and WMF contacted me six months before. > > > In this ''six months before'' have one problem. > > > > > > In Brazil (not only, but in the most countries that need the visa) we > take > > > 3 months to schedule (and get some free time - it's vacation in Brazil > and > > > the people wanna travel) the visit to U.S. Embassy to require the visa. > > > When we requite the visa, we take more 3~~4 months to receive the answer > of > > > Embassy. Over 6 months. And half per cent of the visas are denied. We > could > > > appeal, and would take more two months. > > > > > > It would be the biggest problem ever in a Wikimania organization. And > > > happens in a really lot of countries which need a visa to enter in U.S.A. > > > > > > I suggest to announce to the people who live in that countries early. > > > Earliest as possible. Maybe 8 or 9 months before... Take a visa to US > > > really isn't easy. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > _____________________ > > > MateusNobre > > > *Wikimedia Brasil - MetalBrasil on Wikimedia projects > > > (+55) 85 88393509 > > > 30440865 > > > * > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > > > > Press *ENTER* to look up in Wiktionary or *CTRL+ENTER* to look up in > > > Wikipedia > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20111101/e30a1d81/attachment.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > > > End of Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 4 > > ****************************************** > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20111102/7df9982c/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > End of Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 68, Issue 6 > ****************************************** >
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