Perhaps we can think outside of the box, and have the bidding teams announce the time that they'll have the presentation, and then it's up to the jury to come along if they can make it ;-)
The way we do things probably makes sense for an organisation like the International Olympic Committee or FIFA, where everyone is professionally employed and able to go to one location at one time to make a glossy presentation, but unfortunately this movement and our bid teams are not that generously financed. Cheers, Craig On 15 April 2012 10:39, Thomas Goldammer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi. > Which alternative method would that be? Actually, I think two IRC > meetings at the edge of the day, even if it's 11 PM or 7 AM local > time, aren't too hard to come along with. If absolutely nobody from a > certain bidding team can make it to both of the meetings, one can > still arrange something else for them, but that is unlikely to happen. > Note that when the Wikimania actually takes place, 11 PM or 7 AM will > not be unusual times for being needed for organizing things, anyway... > But that's my personal opinion and I might be a bit strict with such > need for flexibility of the bidding teams. :) > > What one could do next time, however, is to have the two meetings at > completely different times, one more suitable for the Americas (like 8 > PM UTC), one more for the opposite side of the world (Eastern Asia, > Australia etc) (like 8 AM UTC). Europe/Africa won't be a problem for > both. > > Best regards, > Th. > > 2012/4/15 Craig Franklin <[email protected]> > > > > I know that I'm not bidding this year, so this may be none of my > business, > > but we encountered a similar problem when we bid all the way back for > 2009. > > Might I suggest that a "presentation model" which requires people from > many > > timezones to be present at one time might no longer be a suitable method > to > > judge entries? Especially with more bids coming from outside of Europe > and > > North America, it seems to me that whatever timezone you pick will be > > extremely inconvenient for someone, and it might be a better use of the > > organisers' time to come up with an alternative method, rather than > > desperately trying to come up with a time that everyone can be present? > > > > Cheers, > > Craig Franklin > > > > > > On 8 April 2012 04:12, Béria Lima <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> The log is already on meta. > >> > >> You can find it at: > >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013/IRC_meeting_07-04-2012 > >> > >> Cheers, > >> _____ > >> > >> Béria Lima > >> > >> > >> > >> Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter > >> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. > >> > >> > >> > >> Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 6 April 2012 06:11, Lodewijk <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Unless there are other bidding teams with a strong preference that > seems > >>> no problem to me. The default order will be alphabetical, but if there > are > >>> no objections we will change that on the spot. We would appreciate it > if one > >>> of your team members is there the whole session - to make sure that > you can > >>> reply to questions that come up later on. > >>> > >>> Thanks for the effort, > >>> > >>> Lodewijk > >>> > >>> No dia 6 de Abril de 2012 10:22, Bennylin <[email protected] > > > >>> escreveu: > >>> > >>>> Dear jury members, > >>>> > >>>> Since the Q&A session will be at 9 p.m. Indonesian time, and a > teammate > >>>> has family she needs to attend to, could we start as the first, or at > least > >>>> second team in the Q&A session? > >>>> > >>>> ___________________ > >>>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> benny > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> From: Lodewijk <[email protected]> > >>>> > >>>> To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) > >>>> <[email protected]> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:31 PM > >>>> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] IRC public meeting > >>>> > >>>> Way ahead of you there ;-) Added it on > >>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_bids : 90-120 > minutes. We > >>>> have 5 bids, so I think we will most likely need that time. > >>>> > >>>> Lodewijk > >>>> > >>>> No dia 5 de Abril de 2012 05:47, Deryck Chan <[email protected]> > >>>> escreveu: > >>>> > >>>> How long is it expected to last? > >>>> On Apr 4, 2012 11:48 PM, "Manuel Schneider" > >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hi, > >>>> > >>>> my calendar says: > >>>> > >>>> Saturday, April 7th, 14:00 UTC > >>>> > >>>> /Manuel > >>>> > >>>> Am 04.04.2012 17:43, schrieb Lodewijk: > >>>> > Hi Deryck, > >>>> > > >>>> > since nobody objected to the time, I will make the time final. My > >>>> > apologies > >>>> > for the delay. > >>>> > > >>>> > Lodewijk > >>>> > > >>>> > No dia 4 de Abril de 2012 17:42, Deryck Chan > >>>> > <[email protected]>escreveu: > >>>> > > >>>> >> Would any member of the jury be kind enough to confirm the time > >>>> >> (and > >>>> >> expected duration if possible) of the IRC public meeting this > >>>> >> Saturday? > >>>> >> Thanks. > >>>> -- > >>>> Regards > >>>> Manuel Schneider > >>>> > >>>> Wikimedia CH - Verein zur Förderung Freien Wissens > >>>> Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge > >>>> www.wikimedia.ch > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Wikimania-l mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimania-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimania-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >
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