I propose an Unconference session comprised of: * A lecture- "I want to make a bid, what should it include, and what chances does it have" * A panel - "What is the purpose of wikimania, and what should it include" * Q&A with 2013 Jury memebers
Deror --- On Sun, 4/15/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 21 To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, April 15, 2012, 3:00 PM Send Wikimania-l mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Wikimania-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: IRC public meeting (James Hare) 2. Re: IRC public meeting (Philippe Beaudette) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 00:07:52 -0400 From: James Hare <[email protected]> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] IRC public meeting Message-ID: <CAOWP9Q6rev5H22O7=-U4=7gwfmwnkyrebxn3tsc+-wkdgsy...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Wikimania unconference session on Wikimania bid reform, anyone? :D James Hare On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Deryck Chan <[email protected]> wrote: > Hence the suggestion that this shall be the last time Wikimania bids happen > this way. Next year, not just the way of organising synchronous meetings, > but the entire method of choosing a location and organising team should be > changed. > > IRC isn't the only thing that's become a bit too retro. > > Deryck > > On Apr 15, 2012 8:39 AM, "Thomas Goldammer" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi. >> Which alternative method would that be? Actually, I think two IRC >> meetings at the edge of the day, even if it's 11 PM or 7 AM local >> time, aren't too hard to come along with. If absolutely nobody from a >> certain bidding team can make it to both of the meetings, one can >> still arrange something else for them, but that is unlikely to happen. >> Note that when the Wikimania actually takes place, 11 PM or 7 AM will >> not be unusual times for being needed for organizing things, anyway... >> But that's my personal opinion and I might be a bit strict with such >> need for flexibility of the bidding teams. :) >> >> What one could do next time, however, is to have the two meetings at >> completely different times, one more suitable for the Americas (like 8 >> PM UTC), one more for the opposite side of the world (Eastern Asia, >> Australia etc) (like 8 AM UTC). Europe/Africa won't be a problem for >> both. >> >> Best regards, >> Th. >> >> 2012/4/15 Craig Franklin <[email protected]> >> > >> > I know that I'm not bidding this year, so this may be none of my >> > business, >> > but we encountered a similar problem when we bid all the way back for >> > 2009. >> > ?Might I suggest that a "presentation model" which requires people from >> > many >> > timezones to be present at one time might no longer be a suitable method >> > to >> > judge entries? ?Especially with more bids coming from outside of Europe >> > and >> > North America, it seems to me that whatever timezone you pick will be >> > extremely inconvenient for someone, and it might be a better use of the >> > organisers' time to come up with an alternative method, rather than >> > desperately trying to come up with a time that everyone can be present? >> > >> > Cheers, >> > Craig Franklin >> > >> > >> > On 8 April 2012 04:12, B?ria Lima <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> The log is already on meta. >> >> >> >> You can find it at: >> >> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013/IRC_meeting_07-04-2012 >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> _____ >> >> >> >> B?ria Lima >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ?Imagine um mundo onde ? dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >> >> livre acesso ao somat?rio de todo o conhecimento humano. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 6 April 2012 06:11, Lodewijk <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Unless there are other bidding teams with a strong preference that >> >>> seems >> >>> no problem to me. The default order will be alphabetical, but if there >> >>> are >> >>> no objections we will change that on the spot. We would appreciate it >> >>> if one >> >>> of your team members is there the whole session - to make sure that >> >>> you can >> >>> reply to questions that come up later on. >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for the effort, >> >>> >> >>> Lodewijk >> >>> >> >>> No dia 6 de Abril de 2012 10:22, Bennylin >> >>> <[email protected]> >> >>> escreveu: >> >>> >> >>>> Dear jury members, >> >>>> >> >>>> Since the Q&A session will be at 9 p.m. Indonesian time, and a >> >>>> teammate >> >>>> has family she needs to attend to, could we start as the first, or at >> >>>> least >> >>>> second team in the Q&A session? >> >>>> >> >>>> ___________________ >> >>>> >> >>>> Regards, >> >>>> benny >> >>>> >> >>>> ________________________________ >> >>>> From: Lodewijk <[email protected]> >> >>>> >> >>>> To: Wikimania general list (open subscription) >> >>>> <[email protected]> >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 5, 2012 2:31 PM >> >>>> >> >>>> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] IRC public meeting >> >>>> >> >>>> Way ahead of you there ;-) Added it on >> >>>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2013_bids? : 90-120 minutes. >> >>>> We >> >>>> have 5 bids, so I think we will most likely need that time. >> >>>> >> >>>> Lodewijk >> >>>> >> >>>> No dia 5 de Abril de 2012 05:47, Deryck Chan <[email protected]> >> >>>> escreveu: >> >>>> >> >>>> How long is it expected to last? >> >>>> On Apr 4, 2012 11:48 PM, "Manuel Schneider" >> >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi, >> >>>> >> >>>> my calendar says: >> >>>> >> >>>> Saturday, April 7th, 14:00 UTC >> >>>> >> >>>> /Manuel >> >>>> >> >>>> Am 04.04.2012 17:43, schrieb Lodewijk: >> >>>> > Hi Deryck, >> >>>> > >> >>>> > since nobody objected to the time, I will make the time final. My >> >>>> > apologies >> >>>> > for the delay. >> >>>> > >> >>>> > Lodewijk >> >>>> > >> >>>> > No dia 4 de Abril de 2012 17:42, Deryck Chan >> >>>> > <[email protected]>escreveu: >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> Would any member of the jury be kind enough to confirm the time >> >>>> >> (and >> >>>> >> expected duration if possible) of the IRC public meeting this >> >>>> >> Saturday? >> >>>> >> Thanks. >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Regards >> >>>> Manuel Schneider >> >>>> >> >>>> Wikimedia CH - Verein zur F?rderung Freien Wissens >> >>>> Wikimedia CH - Association for the advancement of free knowledge >> >>>> www.wikimedia.ch >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Wikimania-l mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Wikimania-l mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimania-l mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimania-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimania-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:37:14 -0700 From: Philippe Beaudette <[email protected]> To: "Wikimania general list (open subscription)" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Wikimania-l] IRC public meeting Message-ID: <CAPb+kY_QJzi+GQmqH6CBukqSWYnszvBdbPTAAVxqd=c5nux...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Craig Franklin <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps we can think outside of the box, and have the bidding teams > announce the time that they'll have the presentation, and then it's up to > the jury to come along if they can make it ;-) Wow, really? You want a bid scuttled because a few jurors got together and decided to skip, say, Australia? :-) That's a lot of power to put in someone's hands.... ___________________ Philippe Beaudette Director, Community Advocacy Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 415-839-6885, x 6643 [email protected] <[email protected]> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/attachments/20120414/d72398e7/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Wikimania-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimania-l End of Wikimania-l Digest, Vol 73, Issue 21 *******************************************
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