Deryck has raised a fair point on real names on badges, as this would rise up 
during checking-in: for real names do you mean the one on documents or do you 
mean the one we are normally called? I'm usually called Alan but it's nowhere 
in my official identification papers bear that name! I'm not sure about the 
situation of Deryck but I supposed many Hongkongers could face a dilemma if a 
strict real name policy is pursued at the door!

Alan

Sent on the road

On 23 Apr, 2012, at 22:26, wikimania-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote:

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> I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy
> reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other
> offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could
> turn them away, just saying...
> 
> On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour
> <nicholasbash...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only
>> the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their
>> real name associated with a username should only provide their first and
>> last.
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Nicholas Michael Bashour
>> President
>> Wikimedia District of Columbia
>> Washington, DC, USA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2012/4/23 Delphine M?nard <notafi...@gmail.com>
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour
>>> <nicholasbash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may
>>> not have a username. I suggest
>>>> 
>>>> First Last
>>>> Username (optional)
>>>> Affiliation
>>> 
>>> Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real
>>> name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember
>>> if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should
>>> probably be something like:
>>> 
>>>> First Last (optional if Username is provided)
>>>> Username (optional if First Last is provided)
>>>> Affiliation (if provided)
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> 
>>> Delphine
>>> --
>>> @notafish
>>> 
>>> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will
>>> get lost.
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> From: Florence Devouard <anth...@anthere.org>
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> Security man, security....
> 
> On 4/23/12 4:14 PM, Deryck Chan wrote:
>> I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for 
>> privacy reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania 
>> and other offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this 
>> point could turn them away, just saying...
>> 
>> On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour 
>> <nicholasbash...@gmail.com <mailto:nicholasbash...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>    For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the
>>    badge. Only the username and affiliation can be optional. Those
>>    who do not want their real name associated with a username should
>>    only provide their first and last.
>> 
>>    Sincerely,
>> 
>>    Nicholas Michael Bashour
>>    President
>>    Wikimedia District of Columbia
>>    Washington, DC, USA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    2012/4/23 Delphine M?nard <notafi...@gmail.com
>>    <mailto:notafi...@gmail.com>>
>> 
>>        Hi,
>> 
>>        On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour
>>        <nicholasbash...@gmail.com <mailto:nicholasbash...@gmail.com>>
>>        wrote:
>>> Some users may not be affiliated with any project or
>>        chapter, and may not have a username. I suggest
>>> 
>>> First Last
>>> Username (optional)
>>> Affiliation
>> 
>>        Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have
>>        their real
>>        name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't
>>        remember
>>        if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result
>>        should
>>        probably be something like:
>> 
>>> First Last (optional if Username is provided)
>>> Username (optional if First Last is provided)
>>> Affiliation (if provided)
>> 
>>        best,
>> 
>>        Delphine
>>        --
>>        @notafish
>> 
>>        NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal
>>        emails will get lost.
>>        Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive -
>>        http://blog.notanendive.org
>>        Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
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> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:16:32 +0100
> From: Joseph Seddon <josephsed...@gmail.com>
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> I agree. There is going to have to be some room for manoeuvre on that.
> 
> Seddon
> 
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Deryck Chan <deryckc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for privacy
>> reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and other
>> offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point could
>> turn them away, just saying...
>> 
>> 
>> On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour <
>> nicholasbash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only
>>> the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their
>>> real name associated with a username should only provide their first and
>>> last.
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> 
>>> Nicholas Michael Bashour
>>> President
>>> Wikimedia District of Columbia
>>> Washington, DC, USA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2012/4/23 Delphine M?nard <notafi...@gmail.com>
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour
>>>> <nicholasbash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may
>>>> not have a username. I suggest
>>>>> 
>>>>> First Last
>>>>> Username (optional)
>>>>> Affiliation
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real
>>>> name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember
>>>> if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should
>>>> probably be something like:
>>>> 
>>>>> First Last (optional if Username is provided)
>>>>> Username (optional if First Last is provided)
>>>>> Affiliation (if provided)
>>>> 
>>>> best,
>>>> 
>>>> Delphine
>>>> --
>>>> @notafish
>>>> 
>>>> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will
>>>> get lost.
>>>> Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive -
>>>> http://blog.notanendive.org
>>>> Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
>>>> 
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> We definitely understand concerns surrounding privacy issues vs security
> issues, particularly in the US, and we want to accommodate all attendees
> who wish to keep their real names off their badges.  We'll be looking into
> security requirements, but, for now, the established status quo of
> providing either your real name, user name, or both is still in place. I'm
> hoping that doesn't have to change.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Nicholas Michael Bashour
> President
> Wikimedia District of Columbia
> Washington, DC, USA
> 
> 2012/4/23 Joseph Seddon <josephsed...@gmail.com>
> 
>> I agree. There is going to have to be some room for manoeuvre on that.
>> 
>> Seddon
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Deryck Chan <deryckc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think there are a number of regular Wikimania attendees who, for
>>> privacy reasons, would not like to use their real names at Wikimania and
>>> other offline Wikimedia activities. Enacting this new rule at this point
>>> could turn them away, just saying...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 23 April 2012 15:12, Nicholas Michael Bashour <
>>> nicholasbash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> For security reasons, the first and last name MUST be on the badge. Only
>>>> the username and affiliation can be optional. Those who do not want their
>>>> real name associated with a username should only provide their first and
>>>> last.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> 
>>>> Nicholas Michael Bashour
>>>> President
>>>> Wikimedia District of Columbia
>>>> Washington, DC, USA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2012/4/23 Delphine M?nard <notafi...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM, Nicholas Bashour
>>>>> <nicholasbash...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Some users may not be affiliated with any project or chapter, and may
>>>>> not have a username. I suggest
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> First Last
>>>>>> Username (optional)
>>>>>> Affiliation
>>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, I am pretty sure some people do not wish to have their real
>>>>> name printed on the badges alongside their nickname. I can't remember
>>>>> if the question was asked (I hope it was), but the end result should
>>>>> probably be something like:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> First Last (optional if Username is provided)
>>>>>> Username (optional if First Last is provided)
>>>>>> Affiliation (if provided)
>>>>> 
>>>>> best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Delphine
>>>>> --
>>>>> @notafish
>>>>> 
>>>>> NB. This gmail address is used for mailing lists. Personal emails will
>>>>> get lost.
>>>>> Intercultural musings: Ceci n'est pas une endive -
>>>>> http://blog.notanendive.org
>>>>> Photos with simple eyes: notaphoto - http://photo.notafish.org
>>>>> 
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