I am sorry but I do not quite get Tom and Craig's point here. It's not
about "winning" and am not sure why you suggest that the selfie's involve
mockery and derision.

The image of the monkey constitutes a very old archetype
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes> dating back to ancient
Egypt, where the monkey was known as Thoth
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth>. According to Wikipedia, the Greeks
"he was the true author of every work of every branch of knowledge, human
and divine." An interesting take on copyright: the monkey takes it all!

In fact the putative £10,000 lost revenue Slater claims he has lost, was
always speculative. I reckon the publicity he has gained is more than
adequate recompense, and maybe he was aware of the weakness of case and
gaining the publicity was his purpose in taking the action.

all the best

Fabian Tompsett,
Wikimania Support Team,
Wikimedia UK,
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On 9 August 2014 01:37, Craig Franklin <[email protected]> wrote:

> I agree with Tom here, I find the whole monkey selfie thing to be rather
> tasteless and disrespectful.  You might not agree with the arguments the
> photographer makes (and I don't), but there's no need for mockery and
> derision.
>
> Cheers,
> Craig
>
>
>
> On 9 August 2014 08:24, Thomas Morton <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I find this a bit distasteful, rather akin to rubbing it in the
>> photographers face.
>>
>> Its fine to take a stand on a point of copyright.
>>
>> But being dicks about winning is surely not the sort of attitude we want
>> to display? Hardly helps support our stance as serious, rather than
>> trollish.
>>
>> Tom
>> On 8 Aug 2014 22:54, "Gordon Joly" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/08/14 12:44, Fabian Tompsett wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > *Simia Autoritratta*
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, like Robert Mapplethorpe?
>>>
>>> Gordo
>>>
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