You can blame it on me!   I had thought I had posted the announcement
over the holidays but it was sitting on my drafts mail folder.

Ellie



> On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Christopher Cooper <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Iolanda,
>
> Thank you for your thoughtful and swift response.
>
> I'm not particularly critical of the bid team for being open about the 
> result, since there are good reasons to get the news out there and it would 
> be unreasonable to expect a bid team to keep their win or loss a secret for 
> any period of time.
>
> I think the answer here is for the official announcement of the jury's 
> decision to be as prompt as possible; this doesn't seem to have been an issue 
> in previous years. The decision to award Wikimania 2015 to Mexico City was 
> also done with the condition that further WMF vetting was required, and this 
> isn't a problem, as long as it is noted in the announcement and on the 
> updated pages.
>
> Kind regards,
> Christopher
>
>> On 22/01/2015 10:21, Iolanda Pensa wrote:
>> thanks Christopher!
>> I perfectly understand your point in the communication. I decided to give 
>> the news on twitter (and then to share it on facebook where the Esino Lario 
>> community is very present) because I needed two things
>> 1. to make sure people got excited about it and kept their enthusiasm. we 
>> have been waiting a lot for this answer and it arrived after the expected 
>> date (it was postponed). I had around 200 people asking me every day about 
>> it; i needed to tell them as soon as possible to not consume the enthusiasm 
>> and making sure they are on it.
>> 2. to fundraise. the very same day (December 24th - and I can assure you 
>> that with two children 5 and 6 years old is not really the best day) I 
>> delivered an application for 200'000 euro to be used to involve people in 
>> the region in wikimedia activities for 2 years, and to have more funds for 
>> the infrastructures. The deadline was December and i needed to tell them we 
>> have been selected immediately and i could not wait later on to communicate 
>> the information.
>>
>> Of course Esino will be visited by Ellie and Garfield and the decision is 
>> provisional. At the same time it is important to say that we had already a 
>> site visit in July 2014 (Deror and Manuel Schneider) with a positive 
>> evaluation, and our bid provide full information in a realistic and correct 
>> way. Of course it would be better to announce the winning after May 2015 
>> (after the confirmation), but this would delay the project and now we need 
>> fundings, partners and people to get involved to make it. Esino is an 
>> extremely complex situation to have a conference and we want to make sure it 
>> happens and it happens well. This at the end is the role we have.
>>
>> I wanted to provide you and explication because I do understand and respect 
>> your point. I hope the explanation can clarify why I did it; I really wanted 
>> to let you know that I didn't do it for pride and joyful enthusiasm (which I 
>> have but i could wait for the official announcement); i did it because we 
>> need to move and move fast: start working in making Wikimania Esino starting 
>> and get the necessary attention from the stakeholders (we are currently 
>> negotiating with the Lombardy Region for a program of agreement which needs 
>> to get done now or we can't get all the resources for the event).
>> my warm regards
>> iolanda / iopensa
>>
>>
>>> Il giorno 21/gen/2015, alle ore 21:04, Christopher Cooper 
>>> <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>>>
>>> May I offer my congratulations to Esino Lario on winning the bid. I 
>>> personally backed Manilla for various reasons, but it was a fair contest, 
>>> and I look forward to going to Italy in 2016.
>>>
>>> I have noted though that there was some confusion caused by it becoming 
>>> public knowledge via Twitter that Esino Lario had won, despite there having 
>>> been no official announcement. I think in future years the decision should 
>>> be formally announced and pages updated before tweets etc. are made.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Christopher
>>>
>>>> On 20/01/2015 23:24, Ellie Young wrote:
>>>> Dear Wikimedians,
>>>>
>>>> On the recommendation of the Wikimania 2016 selection Jury Committee, we 
>>>> have accepted the proposal from the Esino Lario Italy team.   The  
>>>> Wikimania Esino Lario team is composed mainly of volunteers.  It is 
>>>> promoted by  Wikimedia Italia and Wikimedia CH in partnership with Esino 
>>>> Lario city council, Ecomuseo delle Grigne, Pro Loco Esino Lario, Parco 
>>>> Regionale della Grigna Settentionale and the Esino Lario local 
>>>> associations and community. nThe proposal will be further vetted by the 
>>>> WMF staff in the coming months, after which time we hope to confirm the 
>>>> award.   Please join us in congratulating Wikimania Esino Lario!
>>>>
>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2016_bids/Esino_Lario
>>>>
>>>> We would also like to thank the team from Manila, Philippines for their 
>>>> efforts in putting together excellent proposal.  As a volunteer-led 
>>>> movement, it is hugely encouraging to have so many who want to support 
>>>> Wikimania. The bidding process requires a substantial time investment, and 
>>>> we are most grateful for every team’s hard work.
>>>>
>>>> For those of you who are considering hosting in future years, we expect to 
>>>> issue the Request for Proposals  for 2017  in September.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Ellie Young, WMF Conference Coordinator
>>>> On behalf of the Wikimania Steering Committee
>>>
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