On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would be nice for the original schedule to have been followed or contact
> made, it would also have been nice to have been conatcted about the delay
> especially as a one of the people who followed the procedure in place and
> started a bid of 2017, was then told that wasnt being followed but that
> 2018 was a possability as such I passed that along to those who helped
> construct the bid these delays are both frustrating and making the people
> on the ground look unprofessional just get on with it....
>

>
> As for 14 december - 18 January time lkine well we know for many people
> that period is the worst time of year traditionally our lowest editting and
> participation rates occur over this holiday period, capped off with the
> Wikipedia 15 demands the chances of devoting significant time to this will
> be harder than trying to follow two consultations at once
>

I understand your frustration with the delay, but again, spacing of
consultations wasn't the only factor in the updated timeline - please see
my last post. Given this, the alternative would be to not launch until
later in January, which is an option I like even less. I'm actually pretty
curious to see how much participation we'll get during that 4 week window.
It is a longer window than we'd likely have gone with for a consultation at
other times of year because we, too, wondered what impact the seasonality
will have. Participation is something we monitor closely in consultations
and we've got a few other baselines to compare this one with, so I expect
we'll be able to test your assumption and course-correct if needed based on
the information at hand. Thanks for flagging this particular concern, we'll
be keeping an eye on it as well.


>
>
> On 5 December 2015 at 02:28, Austin Hair <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 8:33 PM, Risker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 3 December 2015 at 14:21, Austin Hair <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Ellie Young <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > A lot of work has gone into preparing for  the consultation.    It
>> will
>> >> > be going out December 14.  We are looking forward to getting
>> everyone's
>> >> > feedback in the weeks after and into early January.
>> >>
>> >> Is there a particular reason it's being delayed until the 14th?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Perhaps because that would be close to the end of the Harassment
>> > consultation, which is also being managed by other sections of the
>> Community
>> > Engagement department? And also after the Community Tech Wishlist
>> > consultation?  I'm thrilled to see so many attempts to reach out to the
>> > community, but on the other hand if the community is asked to consult
>> on too
>> > many things at once, it can have a limiting effect on participation.
>> > Running three major community consultations all at the same time could
>> turn
>> > out to be counterproductive, especially at a time of year when so many
>> > community members are also deeply involved in activities within their
>> > personal life.
>>
>> Okay, no need to get antagonistic.
>>
>> An e-mail was cross-posted to two lists I manage (wikimedia-l and
>> wikimania-l) about a topic I have a long-standing (i.e., since 2004)
>> interest in. I was curious about the specific timing, as if it were
>> something that had to be managed on a 9-to-5 office schedule.
>>
>> For my money, I don't think that the community is so mentally taxed
>> (or, for that matter, so closely intermingled) that they need a break
>> between talking about technical issues and our international
>> conference. (And, for that matter, that this issue isn't being
>> "managed" the other way around.) But if this is the official
>> justification, so be it—that's all I asked.
>>
>> Austin
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