Please let us know when the bus transfers are open again.

I will note:

The May 15 cutoff date for registration with accommodation was NOT
announced on the mailing list.

The May 31 cutoff date for airport transfers to be booked was NOT announced
on the mailing list.

>From what I can tell, the announcement that the bus transfers were
available for online purchase was May 16, in a response email by Iolanda.
There was no standalone announcement. That is, there was no email titled
“Bus transfers available for purchase” to let people know. Apparently,
purchasing a bus transfer was only available two weeks. That is much too
narrow a window, much too little fair notice, on top of a very confusing
procedure.

In fact, if you look at the entire May archive of Wikimania-L, there is far
too little communication.

https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2016-May/thread.html

There are only 4 threads and 23 total messages, most of them questions and
requests from individuals. I’m pleading with the organizers to err on the
side of too much, rather than too little communication.

I can only feel that those trying to attend Wikimania who are not WMF staff
or full scholarship recipients are being treated as second class attendees.

I understand how hard organizing Wikimania is, as I was involved in many
aspects of executing the conference in its early years. However, clear
travel logistics is something the organizer must guarantee. The bidding
team knew this when it started with this unusual bid, and it must follow
through.

-Andrew



-Andrew Lih
Associate professor of journalism, American University
Email: [email protected]
WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com
BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://www.wikipediarevolution.com
PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 2:40 PM, Marta Pigazzini <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Andrew,
>
> the link worked, it has been active until the 31st of may and we have
> received a number of bookings for the bus transfer from the airport to
> Esino and back. It was closed on the 31st in order for us to define the
> number of buses and set a timetable.
> Stuart is now working on re-opening the registration to buy the remaining
> seats at the following link:
>
>
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wikimania-2016-airport-transfers-tickets-22670558250
>
> Please also note that the main arrival is on the 21st of June (we are
> expecting approx. 70% of participants on this day). This is why we do not
> have many people booked for Thursday the 23rd.
>
> Kind regards,
> Marta
>
>
>
>
> Il 13/06/16 15:58, Andrew Lih ha scritto:
>
> Iolanda, I find this entirely unsatisfactory:
>
> “If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the
> airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport.”
>
> The link never worked the many times I tried. Andy Mabbett and I have
> reported to you the problems with the Eventbrite link being listed as
> “unavailable.” Your current schedule says on a main travel day of Thursday,
> 23 June, only enough people (4?) have requested Malpensa -> Esino
> transportation. I find that hard to believe considering the volume of folks
> going to the conference.
>
> https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Journey/Airports
>
> Can we please get some more help for coordinating travel from the
> Wikimania team? I feel we are working in the dark here. Thanks.
>
> -Andrew
>
>
>
>
> -Andrew Lih
> Associate professor of journalism, American University
> Email: [email protected]
> WEB: http://www.andrewlih.com
> BOOK: The Wikipedia Revolution: http://
> <http://www.wikipediarevolution.com>www.wikipediarevolution.com
> PROJECT: Wiki Makes Video
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wiki_Makes_Video
>
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Iolanda Pensa <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> dear all
>> Everyone – who has got a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario and
>> received a confirmation from eventbrite – has accommodation in Esino Lario.
>> Marta and Patrizia have assigned all the beds.
>> You will be given your address and keys in Piazza Italia in Esino Lario
>> at your arrival; we expect you to arrive the 21st or the 23rd according to
>> to the 5 or 3 days ticket you got.
>> Marta will send you today some further information about your travel and
>> arrival.
>>
>> Pleonastic, but
>> If you did not buy a ticket with accommodation in Esino Lario, you don’t
>> have accommodation in Esino Lario.
>> If you did not buy a ticket for your direct transport from and to the
>> airport, you do not have direct transport from and to the airport.
>> Eventually you can get worried if you don’t have an eventbrite
>> confirmation.
>>
>> I personally consider wikipedians and wikimedians the most intelligent
>> people I can spend time with. We certainly pretend you to get to Esino
>> Lario, to find the right bus, to take the train in the right direction
>> (please note that Tirano is not Torino), to sign up for events and to read
>> (and cite) all necessary sources. Certainly… it’s the beginning of a great
>> adventure.
>> iolanda
>>
>>
>>
>> Il giorno 13 giu 2016, alle ore 13:03, Harry Mitchell <[email protected]>
>> ha scritto:
>>
>> Nothing here, and with only a week to go before I start my travels. I
>> sympathise with the organisers who are being bombarded with all sorts of
>> questions and no doubt have many other things to worry about. I remember
>> how that felt in 2014. But these are not minor details for people
>> travelling long distances, especially for those of us who have taken time
>> off work and spent our own money to get there.
>>
>> Could we trouble the organisers at least for a date by which we'll have
>> some information on where we're staying?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Harry
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>>
>> On Mon, 13 Jun, 2016 at 11:47, Andy Mabbett
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 6 June 2016 at 15:26, Mardetanha <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > as elllie put on her previous emails, you will receive details
>> separately
>> > very soon
>>
>> A week has passed since the above reply; I'm concerned that I still
>> have no information about where I shall be staying, nor indeed whether
>> I have somewhere to stay. Does anyone else?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Andy Mabbett
>> @pigsonthewing
>> http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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