Attendee safety has always been, and will continue to be, a serious
consideration.

I will note that Wikimania has been held in Mexico, Egypt and Israel with
similar concerns for those locations. Those places all show up in the
Global Peace Index list of most dangerous countries, and we found ways to
hold successful conferences there. There is no guarantee that a South
Africa location would be without issues, but it does show that we are not
in unfamiliar territory when considering these types of risks.

Thanks.
-Andrew




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On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 5:21 AM, Harry Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:

> I find the idea of holding Wikimania in sub-Saharan Africa quite exciting.
> It would potentially be a very different sort of event, and it would have
> the chance to leave a lasting legacy. Speaking of South Africa, though, is
> it unfair of me to say to that the country has a reputation for lawlessness
> and violent crime? Is this something the powers that be will take into
> consideration?
>
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> On Sat, Jul 9, 2016 at 12:05 AM, Florence Devouard <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh. Good point !
>>
>> The term "interest" referred to Wikimedia South Africa, which expressed
>> interest into etc.
>>
>> During Wikimania, various groups were approached by us (by Ellie). And
>> other groups approached us. To express their interest in holding Wikimania
>> in the future.
>>
>> For example, on Sunday evening, at Pizzeria 51, a few minutes before the
>> sky decided to fall on our heads, I was told Bangkok was interested for
>> 2020 !
>>
>> Florence
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 08/07/16 à 21:50, Lodewijk a écrit :
>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification, Florence. If I may ask another: the
>>> 'interest' expressed, does that refer to interest expressed by
>>> South-African Wikimedians, or by the Committee?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> 2016-07-08 21:38 GMT+02:00 Florence Devouard <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>>
>>>     Le 08/07/16 à 16:01, Chris Keating a écrit :
>>>
>>>         Hoi,
>>>
>>>         I was interested to read the minutes of the most recent Wikimania
>>>         Committee meeting, which decided that Wikimania will be held
>>>         annually
>>>         from now on, and that it will be in sub-Saharan Africa
>>> (effectively
>>>         meaning South Africa) in 2018.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Pointing out that the minutes do not say that it will be in
>>>     sub-Saharan Africa. It says
>>>
>>>     "The CfP should identify the priority given for that year to
>>>     Sub-Saharan Africa, noting that there is expressed interest in
>>>     hosting in the Republic of South Africa. "
>>>
>>>     The difference is subtle, but there is a difference.
>>>     The committee actually drafted an official announcement, which was
>>>     supposed to be published quickly after the committee minutes.
>>>     But we have been asked to refrain from publishing our announcement
>>>     until after the WMF has been consulted on the matter.
>>>
>>>     I am happy to disclose the sentence currently drafted for our (not
>>>     yet published) announcement, which is
>>>
>>>     "Considering this, the Committee has a mild preference for
>>>     Sub-Saharan Africa for 2018, but is of course willing to look at
>>>     proposals for hosting Wikimania 2018 in other locations. "
>>>
>>>
>>>     Florence
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_Committee/Minutes/2016-06-26
>>>
>>>         Interestingly, I couldn't see any sign of the Committee's
>>>         decision being
>>>         informed by the WMF's consultation on the future of Wikimania,
>>>         or anyone
>>>         from the WMF's community engagement department being present.
>>>
>>>         I have to say I'm a bit confused, not least about who actually
>>>         makes the
>>>         decision about how frequently Wikimania happens. Is anyone able
>>>         to shed
>>>         any more light on this?
>>>
>>>         Thanks,
>>>
>>>         Chris
>>>
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