Hey Gnagarra,

(changing topics here as we're going on a tangent)
in an attempt to avoid/limit additional work for organizers that are
totally worn out at the end of a cycle:
- What would be your intended use for such document/journal?
- What would be the intended readership
- Would you imagine volunteering to organize such journal, even if you're
not on the organizing team? After all, anyone could collect such
information together.

Best,
Lodewijk

2016-10-22 12:06 GMT+02:00 Gnangarra <[email protected]>:

> It would be nice to see past events wrapped up into one journal covering
> all aspects from original discussion until the final reporting of the event
> including financials, attendee reports and media reports at the moment
> everything is spread across chapter, foundation, event pages which means
> lessons, pitfalls, successes, the work involved over time arent where
> people can find easily
>
> On 22 October 2016 at 17:56, rupert THURNER <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> the points lodewijk mentioned with styles, and independent user groups
>> working on it are quite valid points imo. additionally the purpose of a
>> wiki is to collaborate on a purpose. if the purpose is gone, no wiki
>> software is necessary. following that logic, one could argue to dump a past
>> wikimania wiki into a static html page is best. search could be done via
>> standard web search. if the wikis are not disturbing one could let them
>> just sit where they are.
>>
>> rupert
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Lodewijk <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The discussion has now been moved to https://meta.wikimedia.org/
>>> wiki/Wikimedia_Forum#Wikimania_wikis apparently, where it will probably
>>> also get archived not too distant in the future. I hope someone will post a
>>> link here to that archive page.
>>>
>>> Lodewijk
>>>
>>> 2016-10-22 11:07 GMT+02:00 Rehman Abubakr <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>> (cross-posting to Wikimania-l and Wikimedia-l)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As earlier discussions on this topic received relatively little
>>>> response from the community, I'm sending this email to let you know about
>>>> the new topic posted at https://meta.wikimedia.org/
>>>> wiki/Meta:Babel#Wikimania_wikis, with regards to having a single
>>>> unified Wikimania wiki.
>>>>
>>>> I have copied the original post below for ease of reading. Please post
>>>> your comments on the meta page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **********
>>>>
>>>> Hi. I was looking at Special:SiteMatrix
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix> and couldn't help
>>>> noticing the whopping 14 separate wikis (and growing) for all the different
>>>> Wikimanias, including a separate wiki for a "Wikimania team". Is there any
>>>> current plans of a more sustainable or streamlined approach to running
>>>> these wikis?
>>>>
>>>> I am aware that this has been discussed a few times before, but no
>>>> significant effort was put into it. Wikimania project domain
>>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_project_domain> is the most
>>>> significant discussion which I could find, but participation was quite low
>>>> on that, with no(?) WMF staff comments.
>>>>
>>>> From what I understand from the above linked discussion, some key
>>>> points against a unified Wikimania wiki was that:
>>>>
>>>> 1. We will not be able to preserve old Wikimania wikis as a "time
>>>> capsule"
>>>> 2. Older Wikimania organizers may face new organizers "steamrolling"
>>>> over their pages
>>>> 3. Organizers will not have complete control over the site as old
>>>> admins might interrupt for whatever reasons. (or vice versa)
>>>>
>>>> My though for these points was:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Why not have each Wikimania project branch their pages as
>>>> wikimania.wikimedia.org/wiki/2016/Main page, or alternatively, have
>>>> separate namespaces for each project (i.e. 2016:, 2017:, etc). We could
>>>> then protect all pages under a project (i.e. 2016/ or 2016:) once a project
>>>> is over.
>>>> 2. This could be avoided by protection, as stated above.
>>>> 3. Make it much less complicated. Once the project is over, all
>>>> previous admin rights will be revoked, and the new organizers will get the
>>>> rights. New admins can be advise to not modify previous project namespaces,
>>>> or if better, if we can block previous projects' namespaces from editing?
>>>> Furthermore, there could be a bot logging all changes made to old project
>>>> namespaces, for transparency.
>>>>
>>>> Is there any other views on this? Did I miss something obvious? Looking
>>>> forward to your comments. Cheers, Rehman.
>>>>
>>>> **********
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and regards,
>>>>
>>>> User:Rehman <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rehman>
>>>>
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