On Sun, 6 Aug 2023 at 20:41, effe iets anders <[email protected]> wrote:

> In previous years, volunteer organizers went out of their way to describe in 
> extreme detail how to get to the accommodation/venue

Indeed so - and such information has also in previous years been
generously provided by Wikimedia volunteers who were not Wikimania
organizers, but who were local to the event. Nobody complained when
such questions were asked on this list.

An exemplary example is the thread archived here:

   
https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/thread/2XF5VNDYJYSSZXTRXM7HJUVCOBLD5BUN/#CUJKPB6XIMR5M32GXMXITHU3WLSVBZLZ

> That was great, but should not set an expectation for future organizers to do 
> the same

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I have no such expectations.

The only pertinent expectation I have is that discourse on this and
our other mailing lists will be conducted with more civility than I
was shown today.

> Whenever there are specific questions, it's of course always welcome to ask 
> people - for example through this list.

Recent evidence suggests, sadly, otherwise.

> It looks like a straight metro ride with a short walk along two streets.

Apparently not; the links provided suggest a change of trains is required.

> Andy, if there's anything specific that you need beyond that link, feel free 
> to clarify what that is

I think my originally, carefully worded query was explicitly clear, as
in the context of that query, which it quoted, was my follow-up.

[Readers will note that it does not include a request for the location
of any of the hotels to which I referred]

> Overall, I hope that as a community we can lower what we "expect" from the 
> organizers to take care of

Again, I have no expectations such as those to which you refer.

My request was for "someone with local knowledge" to give an answer.

[My only request to an organiser, when they said they would reply
privately, was to do so here instead, so that others may benefit]
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