Yes, we can work on this on Tuesday, 3/24. On Sunday, March 15, 2015, Pine W <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Peaceray, > > Thanks for volunteering. We already have a meetup scheduled for March 24, > so could we work on this at that time? In the meantime we can test > screencasting tools. > > Also, does anyone have a copy of Premiere that we can borrow? I've tried > several open source video editors and all of them were buggy, slow, or > difficult to use. > > Thanks, > Pine > On Mar 14, 2015 8:59 PM, "Raymond Leonard" <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Addendum: Maybe a Windoze screencasting is a possibility after all. After >> looking at Comparison of screencasting software >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_screencasting_software>, I >> suggest we take a look at Freeseer >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeseer>. It generates Ogg >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg>, is published by FOSSLC, has a GPL >> v3 license, & works on Linux, OS X, & Windows. >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg> >> >> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Raymond Leonard < >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >> >>> Pine, >>> >>> I would like to help. I think that quiddity's suggestions are good. >>> Perhaps we should tackle individual segments of how to edit with VE rather >>> than the whole kit & caboodle. More of a just-in-time approach to VE help. >>> >>> That said, I have no real experience with VE as I tend to work directly >>> with Wiki markup. Bringing a beginner's mind to VE might be a good thing. >>> >>> I also do not have either a Chromebook or Linux systems that the tools >>> suggested at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/education/2015-March/001273.html >>> use. Perhaps someone in the Seattle area who has a Linux PC can assist us. >>> >>> Except for Saturday morning, I am available this coming weekend >>> (although on-call) to start. >>> >>> Yours, >>> Peaceray >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 6:39 PM, quiddity <[email protected] >>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Jan Ainali <[email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Just an idea, for the part on how to edit with VisualEditor, make >>>>> several short videos with distinct themes instead of one long video >>>>> covering it all. Not only will it be easier to record and edit, it will be >>>>> easier to reuse if you a question like question "How do I add a source >>>>> with >>>>> VE?" and you can just point them to that video rather than handing them a >>>>> 30 minute video and trying to remember at what time that part starts. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Strong +1. The shorter a video is, the more people will watch/listen to >>>> it. >>>> I'd recommend 30-90 seconds as the ideal target, with ~4 minutes as the >>>> second ideal target, and ~10 minutes as the maximum. Anything longer than >>>> that, could be broken up into chunks, and should be, Because: >>>> A) less "time-commitment" for viewers (it can kindle the enthusiasm of >>>> clicking "oh, just one more!", rather than "oh god, another entire >>>> hour-at-once!"), >>>> B) it allows multiple shorter videos to be embedded in a page of text,* >>>> C) it has much more potential over the years ahead, for us (*all*) to >>>> update/improve/adapt/fork/subtitle/remix/etc each *segment* of it, in >>>> every wiki that it is wanted. >>>> >>>> The text of the accompanying page could be: >>>> * A concise version of the video(s), in bulletform list. I.e. >>>> "Slide-show presentation" style. With just keywords, and the clickable >>>> links to whatever the video is describing. >>>> * Or, a match of the video(s) content, for people without video-options >>>> * Or, a more elaborate/extensive/complete version of the video(s) >>>> content. E.g. our full Policy/Guideline/MoS/Essay/Help/etc pages >>>> themselves! >>>> >>>> >>>> (Re: screencasts, I replied to the earlier thread related to this, but >>>> didn't CC-all, sorry! See >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/education/2015-March/001273.html >>>> ) >>>> >>>> --quiddity >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-Cascadia mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-Cascadia mailing list >> [email protected] >> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');> >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-cascadia >> >>
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