On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:44:48 +0100, Thomas Morton wrote:

Whether they also want to
> socialise with other editors is somewhat a secondary
> consideration/distraction.

I disagree. A lot.

Of course that is your prerogative.

But I think in holding that view you've critically lost sight of the point of being here. We are not building a social network in the background. A social structure has to exists to keep the community going, but the prime
purpose is to write/develop free content.

But perhaps it would be useful to suggest some specific social features
that you'd want - that might help focus the discussion.


I actually do agree. It is not a secret that we are attractive for people having personal problems of some sort, who hope that they can get kind of attention in Wikipedia/Wikimedia they can never get in real life. At some point I was even put in a situation when I had views opposed to the views of such people, and I basically had to defend my views against them. This proved to be impossible: I am pretty much successful in my professional career, and for me Wikipedia is, well, a hobby. But for them it is life. It is very difficult to argue with people who are fighting for life, does not matter who is defending what views. Finally, I inevitably had to say "fuck you" and leave the argument.

There is in principle nothing wrong with people who want to get attention. For instance, they might want to get attention by writing articles, creating a big number of FAs abd GAs. Or by fighting vandals. Or by writing useful gadgets. I am all for it. And of course not everybody behaves like the types I mentions in the above paragraph - only a small fraction. But I am afraid that the more we socialize, the more attractive we become for this type of people. And then they tend to form circles, voting collectively at RFAs - up for the those from the circle, down for those not from the circle. Or discussing RfDs. Or whatever. It is extremely dangerous when people start mixing personal and professional relations - to speak in a not-so-much-correct way, when they start making love while in the office. This does not help writing the encyclopedia. And I have seen plenty of examples - and I guess all of us had. This is why I am not particularly looking forward to increasing socialization. Wikilove - fine, as a sign of appreciation (though I personally prefer appreciation written in plain English). Barnstars - ok. But going to a full-scale social network - I am sorry, this is going to kill us.


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