On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Todd Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Todd Allen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Mono <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Well, piracy is illegal and piracy stems from file sharing... >>>> >>>> On Monday, April 16, 2012, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: >>>> >>>>> First there were SOPA, PIPA, ACTA and OPEN. Now there is going to be >>>>> Yet Another Attempt >>>>> to enact draconian legislation through mislabeling the real purpose of >>>>> IP legislation by inserting >>>>> it as a rider to law supposedly intended to help in combatting >>>>> Cyber-terrorism: CISPA. >>>>> >>>>> From the link below: >>>>> >>>>> "It's a little piece of Sopa [the Stop Online Piracy Act] wrapped up >>>>> in a bill that's >>>>> supposedly designed to facilitate detection of and defence against >>>>> cyber-security >>>>> threats. The language is so vague that an ISP could use it to monitor >>>>> communications of subscribers for potential infringement of >>>>> intellectual property." >>>>> >>>>> In effect this law is directed against file-sharers, not Cyber terrorism. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-17730266 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>>>> [email protected] <javascript:;> >>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>> >>> I've heard that pirates also use the Internet. We need to get rid of >>> that thing immediately. >>> >>> Wait! What if they burn CDs/DVDs/Blu-Rays? We need to get rid of all >>> those blank discs, right now! >>> >>> And hey wait, they all breathe, too! If we just stop people from >>> breathing, we can put an end to it. >>> >>> Just because a technology is used to break the law doesn't mean it's >>> responsible for the lawbreaking. Filesharing networks are no more >>> responsible for piracy than the telephone company is responsible for a >>> person calling in a bomb threat. >>> >> >> So what's our game-plan? Don't please start arguing about the small >> stuff. This is massive! >> >> I probably shouldn't even say this, but the foundation will look like a >> massive prat, totally wrongfooted -- and grandstanding with all the >> talk our spokespersons let slip out of their mouths after SOPA >> went down, if they now pass CISPA, which is ten times worse. >> >> I've read the law, and it isn't pretty... >> >> -- >> -- >> Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > Would it be possible to get enough other sites behind another protest? > The last one didn't succeed just because of Wikipedia, it succeeded > because there were so many. Facebook didn't do squat anyway, so nobody > cares about them, but Google and Reddit are a different story. Just > the threat of another protest (especially with a "They apparently > didn't listen" theme), this close to elections, might be enough to put > them off this one. It'll have to be something that shows they can't > just wait a couple months and try again. >
I actually have my own battleplan but I would like to hear from more people first, to be sure we are all on the same page that this is a battle we cannot afford to lose. -- -- Jussi-Ville Heiskanen, ~ [[User:Cimon Avaro]] _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
