I've been a little busy this spring, but I am interested in the IPv6
transition (at work, too) and missed this here as well.

I don't object as Anne is here, but I'm not doing the work she's doing
on project either.


-george

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 5:35 PM, John <phoenixoverr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Multiple sign posts January 17 this year. There was also a May 2011
> foundation announcement along with countless other notes
>
> On Friday, June 1, 2012, Risker wrote:
>
>> I've got about 18 months worth of Wikitech-L in my archives, and there are
>> two threads that talk about IPv6; one from March, that didn't provide a lot
>> of information, and this one. There may be others, but they're not popping
>> up on my search.
>>
>> Forgive me for failing to read this week's signpost from cover to cover
>> yet; it refers to the previous coverage from June 2011, and quotes Erik
>> Moeller from some unknown and unspecified source.  I don't know where he
>> told "the community" that. Do you?
>>
>> Risker
>>
>> On 1 June 2012 20:10, John <phoenixoverr...@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Wow Risker, you obviously don't read any mailing lists/ blogs or sign
>> > posts. I just did a quick search of my email records for wiki tech and
>> ipv6
>> > the first result that I see is from July 2007. Almost 5 years ago, I also
>> > remember a big push last year about this same time for ipv6.
>> >
>> > On Friday, June 1, 2012, Risker wrote:
>> >
>> > > Indeed, a long time. Discussed on Mediawiki and bugzilla; it's not even
>> > > discussed on Wikitech-L.  Neither of which 99.99999% of users,
>> including
>> > > many volunteer developers, have time to follow.  This is not just a
>> > > technical change, it's a cultural one.
>> > >
>> > > I've long stood up for the Engineering Department when it is making
>> > changes
>> > > that have only minor effects on the public face of the project; I know
>> > that
>> > > sometimes users can be hyperactive about minor points.  But this isn't
>> a
>> > > minor point.  I'd compare it to Vector - something that there was
>> > longterm,
>> > > active communication about throughout its development cycle, with lots
>> of
>> > > outreach to volunteer developers and to the community, and
>> opportunities
>> > to
>> > > test things out.
>> > >
>> > > I can't stand up for them this time, though. It's not even discussed
>> well
>> > > on Mediawiki, and is mostly in passing on the Roadmap.[1]  And the few
>> > > community-based questions that have come up, specifically on Erik's
>> meta
>> > > userpage, have not been given the courtesy of a reply.
>> > >
>> > > Risker
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > [1] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap
>> > >
>> > > On 1 June 2012 19:35, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com 
>> > > <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On 2 June 2012 00:08, Risker <risker...@gmail.com 
>> > > > <javascript:;><javascript:;>>
>> > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Fully enabling IPv6 has been coming a *long* time - over a year, with
>> > > > months of planning and work before even that - as Erik's first
>> message
>> > > > in this thread notes, and it was hardly a secret. Your objections may
>> > > > be entirely too late - it is vanishingly unlikely that two years'
>> > > > effort will suddenly be thrown away. Were you literally unaware until
>> > > > now that this was in the works?
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > - d.
>> > > >
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