On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Stephanie Daugherty <sdaughe...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Martijn Hoekstra <martijnhoeks...@gmail.com >> wrote: > >> Two points that might help bring people on different sides of the >> issue closer together. >> >> 1. How about notifying people that they have been check-usered 2 >> months after the fact? By that time I hope all investigations are >> complete, and is the risk of tipping off the nefarious should be over. >> >> That's an interesting concept, and I'd think this would be the only way to > notify users without compromising the effectiveness of the tool, but I > still have serious reservations about disclosure here for reasons > previously cited and below. Also, there are conceivably complex abuse cases > where an investigation would take longer than 2 months, particularly in the > sort of cases that eventually end up before en.wiki's arbcom. > > > >> 2. Though the strategies of when to checkuser and how to interpret the >> results are private, the workings of CheckUser are not. It is free >> software, and its useage described at >> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CheckUser I would imagine any >> tech-savy user with malicioius intent will check how CheckUser can be >> used to detect their malicious editing, and what means they have to >> avoid detection. Notifying someone they have been checkusered does not >> give them any information they didn't have already, apart from being >> under investigation. > > > The privacy rules surrounding it are very much public as well. That makes > the effectiveness of checkuser as a tool very much dependent on > carelessness or ignorance of person targeted, things we want to preserve as > much as possible lest checkuser stop being effective or massive relaxation > of privacy policies become necessary to preserve its effectiveness.
Am I correct to summorise here than that CU works because people don't know it doesn't? _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l