One of the key problems with the interface is that it doesn't do a lot to seperate editing and reading.
I know the point is to make editing easy - and to encourage readers to become editors. But realistically most of them will not - and we could do significantly better in streamlining our anon. front end. Tom On 25 July 2012 20:33, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > Most people are stupid and they still deserve a great reading experience.. > Our aim is to share in the sum of all knowledge with everyone. When people > fail to read Wikipedia.. and they do.. there is a reason to do better for > them. Any effective measure that provides a better experience for all the > different screens helps us share with more people. > > Even stupid people deserve to be educated... eh especially stupid people > deserve to be educated ... > Thanks, > Gerard > > On 25 July 2012 17:22, Michel Vuijlsteke <wikipe...@zog.org> wrote: > > > On 25 July 2012 15:57, Kim Bruning <k...@bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote: > > > > > > > > That's default web behaviour. If you want narrower columns, just make > the > > > browser window narrower. > > > > > > * If your answer is "Some people don't know how to use a browser"... > > > well... > > > ARGH > > > > > > > Most people never resize their browser windows. > > If your answer is "Most people are stupid and don't *deserve* a better > > reading experience"… well, sum, yeah. There's that. > > > > > > > * Else If your answer is "Lets make it narrower for everyone (including > > us > > > WIMPs > > > who *do* know how to use Windows Icons Menus and Pointers) whether > they > > > want to or not." I KEEEEL YOU > > > > > > > It's not about making it "narrower". It's about making it *better*. > > Analogy: "Let's reduce the amount of words in the lede" <> "Let's make > the > > lede better". > > > > > > > * Else If your answer is "better DTPishlayout control in CSS, including > > > some sane way to > > > do proper columnated text": YES YES, 1000 TIMES YES! > > > > > > > Column layout on scrolling web pages doesn't make a lot of sense. > > Some additional "DTP-ish" layout control in CSS would be nice, sure, but > > that's not the point. > > > > > > > * Else If other: Ok, go ahead, I'm listening? :-) > > > > > > > Well, see points raised earlier. Making Wikipedia easier to read and use > is > > not just mollycoddling lazy users who "should know better". > > > > Michel > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l