On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 4:41 AM, <birgitte...@yahoo.com> wrote: > You must live in a very simplistic world, but I am afraid it does resemble > reality very well. Here are how some various types of things and people are > funded. Tool server=chapter. Developers= Mostly WMF but some chapter. > Marketing professionals=WMF but no chapter I am aware of. Legal > professionals=WMF and chapter. Administration of fundraising campaign=WMF > and chapters. You will not find any bright lines in reality.
Indeed. And given the magnitude and multitude of problems we are trying to solve as a movement, I think it's absolutely appropriate and desirable for chapters to undertake, for example, software engineering projects (I have reservations about infrastructure-hosting projects). One of the advantages of our open source model is that we already have to operate under a standard assumption that others may want to make significant contributions without centralized management thereof, so we _should_ be able to accommodate chapter-driven software engineering work. The Wikidata project is an example of this. What's notable about Wikidata is not just that it's a very significant scale project (>$1.5M in funding), but also that the funding doesn't come from the classic contribution streams (online donations) but from a network of funders that Wikimedia Germany brought together. The project would not have been started or funded without Wikimedia Germany, which really validates the importance of chapters. Chapters indeed have the potential to build out a significant presence to advance engineering and product development, and I'd love to see more of that in future with regard to underrepresented technical priorities (e.g. geo-data related functionality, quality management tools, ProofreadPage style functionality, etc.). In addition to adding to our overall ability to fund and manage projects, they have the ability to recruit and build offices in their geographies, potentially at a much lower salary cost than we do in the SF Bay Area as our primary HQ. The one caveat I have is that, if chapters don't contribute, as part of this process, fully by means of participating in code review and general MediaWiki development, there's a risk that any such chapter-driven engineering work contributes to the overall backlog, and requires adding to a centralized pool of resources. Moreover, a short term project with limited funding has the potential to also add to the long term maintenance/improvement burden for WMF. We're trying to manage this balance very carefully with the Wikidata project, and we'll draw a lot of lessons from the project as it continues. All best, Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation Support Free Knowledge: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l