Thanks, MZMcBride. This is a really cool feature, which seems helpful for a wide range of different uses.
Kudos to Madman, Krenair and everyone who made this possible! Fabrice On Oct 23, 2012, at 5:00 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Send Wikimedia-l mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Info action (MZMcBride) > 2. Re: Info action (Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation) > 3. Re: Info action (Risker) > 4. Re: Info action (Richard Symonds) > 5. Re: Info action (David Gerard) > 6. Re: Info action (Andy Mabbett) > 7. Re: Info action (Thomas Morton) > 8. Re: Info action (Przykuta) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 -0400 > From: MZMcBride <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi. > > This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link > in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It > is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads > to a newly reimplemented info action: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info > > Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to > performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly > forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and > others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information > dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users. > > This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the > page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal > page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat > dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some > users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the > number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the > deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this > nature. > > The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable > resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from > the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action > (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this > list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>. > > MZMcBride > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 21:59:49 +0000 > From: "Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation" > <[email protected]> > To: "Wikimedia Mailing List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action > Message-ID: > > <17143532-1350943191-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-602246200-@b1.c9.bise6.blackberry> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > Now that's just cool... > ----------------------- > Philippe Beaudette > Director, Community Advocacy > Wikimedia Foundation, Inc > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: MZMcBride <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 > To: Wikimedia Mailing List<[email protected]> > Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action > > Hi. > > This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link > in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It > is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads > to a newly reimplemented info action: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info > > Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to > performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly > forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and > others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information > dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users. > > This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the > page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal > page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat > dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some > users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the > number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the > deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this > nature. > > The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable > resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from > the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action > (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail this > list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>. > > MZMcBride > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:04:21 -0400 > From: Risker <[email protected]> > To: [email protected], Wikimedia Mailing List > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action > Message-ID: > <capxs8yrhex9umj6tztjhatcjdtmlum55oi7jojsega9p00o...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Concur with Philippe. Thanks for letting us know about this. > > Risker > > On 22 October 2012 17:59, Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Now that's just cool... >> ----------------------- >> Philippe Beaudette >> Director, Community Advocacy >> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MZMcBride <[email protected]> >> Sender: [email protected] >> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 17:41:21 >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List<[email protected]> >> Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> >> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Info action >> >> Hi. >> >> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link >> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It >> is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads >> to a newly reimplemented info action: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info >> >> Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to >> performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly >> forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and >> others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information >> dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users. >> >> This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the >> page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal >> page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat >> dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some >> users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the >> number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the >> deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this >> nature. >> >> The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable >> resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from >> the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action >> (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail >> this >> list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>. >> >> MZMcBride >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 10:59:50 +0100 > From: Richard Symonds <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action > Message-ID: > <cachsvdwcsoc2v-jghbpmccvktpnhtbyrp8wzgtrggfy5uon...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > MZMcBride, > > This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is, > but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be > a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the > servers, so it may well be unworkable... > > It's also be useful to be able to see how many editors, authors etc there > were in the past 24 hours - again, I'm not sure if this is doable, but I > thought I'd throw it out there! > > > Richard Symonds/Chase me ladies > > > On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link >> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. It >> is deployed now to a few wikis already. This "Page information" link leads >> to a newly reimplemented info action: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=info >> >> Many, many years ago, the info action was added to MediaWiki, but due to >> performance issues, it was quickly disabled by default and was mostly >> forgotten about. This year, with the wonderful help of Madman, Krenair, and >> others, we have reimplemented the info action to provide an information >> dashboard of sorts about a particular page title to users. >> >> This dashboard includes a variety of metadata about the page, including the >> page's protection status, length, default categorization sort key, internal >> page ID, templates used on the page, and more. The content is somewhat >> dynamic: for some pages it will omit certain irrelevant fields and for some >> users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such as the >> number of page watchers) will be displayed. This will slowly allow for the >> deprecation of outside tools that currently provide information of this >> nature. >> >> The hope is that this action will evolve over time to become a valuable >> resource for users. If you can think of data points that are missing from >> the current action's output or have other ideas to improve the info action >> (it desperately needs a little design love), please feel free to e-mail >> this >> list or file a bug at <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/>. >> >> MZMcBride >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:15:25 +0100 > From: David Gerard <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action > Message-ID: > <CAJ0tu1GMc+-Yd4ow_fjX_kjSNV=0pwjmogusoxdjdwbvl+g...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 23 October 2012 10:59, Richard Symonds > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This looks fantastic, and very useful! I'm not sure how related this is, >> but is there any way the page can also pull up page views? Or would that be >> a problem? My understanding is that page views puts too much load on the >> servers, so it may well be unworkable... > > > History pages on en:wp already have a link to stats.grok.se, shouldn't > be hard to put such a link here as well. > > > - d. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:29:34 +0100 > From: Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action > Message-ID: > <CABiXOE=f45woc2npmlctk2p8e4ip7pem+fnzhfvqe2n8z2p...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" link >> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. > > This sounds like a really useful feature. > >> for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such >> as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. > > Why is this for admins only? > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 11:45:49 +0100 > From: Thomas Morton <[email protected]> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action > Message-ID: > <CAKO2H7-bqH1=1F-W-X_UkPqr9PABMdZpTvGb3=zYonDrac=p...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On 23 October 2012 11:29, Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 22 October 2012 22:41, MZMcBride <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This is just a heads-up that you'll start seeing a "Page information" >> link >>> in the sidebar (under "Toolbox") in the coming days on Wikimedia wikis. >> >> This sounds like a really useful feature. >> >>> for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such >>> as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. >> >> Why is this for admins only? >> > > For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to > avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise. > > Tom > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 12:53:42 +0200 > From: Przykuta <[email protected]> > To: > =?UTF-8?Q?Wikimedia_Mailing_List?=<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Info action > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > >>>> for some users (such as administrators), certain additional fields (such >>>> as the number of page watchers) will be displayed. >>> >>> Why is this for admins only? >>> >> >> For the same reason Special:UnwatchedPages is Admin-only I presume :) to >> avoid people using this feature to identify unwatched pages to vandalise. >> >> Tom > > > This tool is not only for admins: > > http://toolserver.org/~mzmcbride/watcher/?db=enwiki_p&titles=Main_Page > > ;) > > But it works, if number of watchers > 30 > > Przykuta > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > End of Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 103, Issue 50 > ******************************************** _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
