On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <[email protected]>wrote:
> Christophe Henner, 21/12/2012 16:43: > > Well, feels weird to see french as 1st priority frankly. >> > > That's an old proposal meant to start a discussion, it gives some criteria. That was based on primary/secondary language users and activity of community, from a few years ago. Chinese, French, and Spanish do still seem to open up access to the largest communities of people around the world when one considers [second-language readers who don't read English as a first/second language]. Other suggestions welcome, of course. > I don't see the point of the proposal. I'm quite sure people are able to > use Google Translate themselves, and the Translate extension already > provides machine translation features. <http://laxstrom.name/blag/** > 2012/09/07/translation-memory-**all-wikimedia-wikis/<http://laxstrom.name/blag/2012/09/07/translation-memory-all-wikimedia-wikis/> > > > Not to mention that /reading/ a document is not enough to actively engage > in (the discussion about) it, someone should be listening... Right. Starting with a good human translation of a thumbnail summary, no longer than a paragraph, is a useful standard that lot of multilingual communities / processes use. Then readers can know whether they should start reading the full document, and discussing it in theiir language; others who don't want to read a poor translation but do want to discuss the topic can engage without themselves reading the whole thing. This scales fairly well as long as 1-2 people are willing to read in detail or know one of the languages into which the whole has been thoroughly translated. SJ PS - Every time a topic like this comes up recently, I think about how *totally wonderful* the recent improvements in the translation toolchain we use are and make translation by our community vastly easier than ie was even a year ago. We no longer have to think in terms of using Google Translate; we can start to build our own translation memory -- or more than one in focused topic areas. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
