The entire editorial board resigned over the way the publisher was doing it, and that it indicates the true meaning of such a precedent.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <[email protected]>wrote: > hi, > > as far as I know, these prices are not established basing on the cost side, > but the opportunity to charge scholars (who can often justify 3k expense in > a larger grant budget). All this business is quite shady and despicable in > many cases (when the publishers do not offer anything in exchange, barely > support the publication process and the journal, etc.), but in some cases > there is a professional support at least. > > best, > > dj > > > On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:29 PM, rupert THURNER <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > it seems that CEO of taylor & francis, Roger Horton [2], wanted to charge > > nearly 3000 USD to publish an article accessible without paywall in their > > "journal of library administration" [0]. they belong to informa, with its > > CEO, Peter Rigby [1]. > > > > would 3000 usd in future be then a fair price the wikimedia movement > should > > offer scientific authors and reviewing groups to publish an article as > > cc-by-sa? i was trying to get some information to calculate if this > number > > does make any sense [3][4][5][6][7] > > * 15'000 - 25'000 peer reviewed journals > > * 1'300'000 peer reviewed papers published a year > > * 3.5 % of them open available, further 4.6 % after some embargo period > > * 4'000 publishers > > * 2'200'000 books published a year > > * 2012 reed elsevier numbers: > > * total revenue: $9bn > > * profit: £2bn > > * revenue scientific publications: £3 bn > > * electronic revenue: 54% > > * user&subscription revenue: 70% > > * 30'000 people > > * 2011 informa / taylor francis numbers: > > * total revenue $2 bn > > * profit $511 m > > * publishing business 54% of total revenue > > * publishing business 69% of profit > > * 67% of publishing revenues is through subscriptions > > * part of it academic information (AI) > > * 25% of groups revenue > > * 35% of groups profit > > * 20% of groups employees (<1600, out of 8300) > > * 1'600 academic journals > > * 3'500 new books published > > > > this would mean, if one paper costs $3'000 * 1'300'000 = 3'900'000'000 > ... > > the peer reviewed scientific publishing market would be a $4bn market in > > 2013. 2003 the guardian reported the "scientific publishing market" worth > > £4.5bn. [8] and, it would mean 1 person at a publisher works full time > for > > one academic journal published. "open access" et al is listed as > "external > > risk" e.g. in reed elseviers annual report. profit in the academic > > information domain seems to be > 30% of the revenue. > > > > [0] > > > > > http://chronicle.com/blogs/wiredcampus/journals-editorial-board-resigns-in-protest-of-publishers-policy-toward-authors/43149 > > [1] http://www.informa.com/Who-We-Are/Board-of-Directors/Peter-Rigby/ > > [2] https://twitter.com/RogerGHorton > > [3] http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2909426/ > > [4] http://informationr.net/ir/14-1/paper391.html > > [5] http://www.worldometers.info/books/ > > [6] > > http://reporting.reedelsevier.com/media/174016/reed_elsevier_ar_2012.pdf > > [7] > > > > > http://www.informa.com/Documents/Investor%20Relations/Reports/2011/AnnualReport_2011.pdf > > [8] > http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2003/dec/12/houseofcommons.research > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Everton Zanella Alvarenga < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Good example. > > > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > > From: Barbara Dieu <[email protected]> > > > Date: 2013/3/27 > > > Subject: [REA] Crisis of conscience > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > Entire library journal editorial board resigns, citing 'crisis of > > > conscience' after death of Aaron Swartz > > > > > > In a dramatic show of support for the open access movement, the > > > editor-in-chief and entire editorial board of the Journal of Library > > > Administration announced their resignation last week. In a letter to > > > contributors, the board singled out a conflict with owners over the > > > journal's licensing terms, which stripped authors of almost all claim > > > to ownership of their work. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/26/4149752/library-journal-resigns-for-open-access-citing-aaron-swartz > > > > > > Um abc > > > B. > > > > > > -- > > > Barbara Dieu > > > http://barbaradieu.com > > > http://beespace.net > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > > > > -- > > __________________________ > dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak > profesor zarządzania > kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego > i centrum badawczego CROW > Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego > http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > -- David Goodman DGG at the enWP http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
