I don't understand the "no"; you seem to be agreeing with Nathan...
On 8 April 2013 21:19, Fred Bauder <[email protected]> wrote: > No, some information which is classified is also contained within > reliable published sources available to the public and we use that > information in our articles, along with occasional original research > which may due to good guesses also contain such information. There are > not two separate worlds of reliable classified information and reliable > unclassified information; they overlap. > > For example, if Mongolia purchases MIG aircraft that will result in an > intelligence bulletin; but also there may be an AP story. The summary of > classified information about the planes Mongolia has may have an > inferior, but more or less accurate, Wikipedia counterpart article about > the Mongolian air force, which if copied to the Intelligence wiki looks > like it contains "secret" information, which, presumably the full file on > Mongolian armed forces probably is. > > Fred > >> In other words, the problem was people were uploading Wikipedia >> articles which the government thought included classified information? >> And because the pages were already public uploaders assumed they were >> unclassified, but because the government is nuts, they were wrong. >> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:06 PM, George Herbert <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Romaine Wiki <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 12:31:29, Fred Bauder <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> > I can't see what would be sensitive in the article.. >>>> >>>> I think that the existence of the article is considered too sensitive >>>> for >>>> them, not realizing that all information is already elsewhere on the >>>> internet. >>> >>> >>> A couple of years ago, the guy in charge of the CIA's internal >>> MediaWiki >>> (the Intelligence Wiki, which they added classification levels etc) did >>> a >>> talk at ... Usenix? LISA? One of their conferences. >>> >>> He was talking about challenges. The code certification was >>> interesting. >>> The Wiki project getting in trouble for having (US classified) Secret, >>> Top >>> Secret, or Top Secret SCI (Secure Compartmented Information) in the >>> "Open-unclassified" category *due to Wikipedia uploads/imports* was >>> apparently a major ongoing pain point for the whole organization. >>> >>> Fortunately not one that was being exposed to the public, other than >>> his >>> talk... >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -george william herbert >>> [email protected] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list >> [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
