I don't understand this line of discussion. From an intelligence stand-point, the goal of the program seems to be communication interception COMINT through SIGAD means. From phone calls, to emails, to private and public posts. I'm not sure how that would have any bearing on Wikipedia though, the purpose there is to write an article, fix typos, add pictures, occasionally there is cross-communication between different editors. Nearly all of it is visible to the world. I read Domas' email[1] linked to by Benjamin Lees, he seems pretty clear that there is nothing hidden and discussions like this are a waste of time.
This is one of the big benefit of the open culture. There is little hidden about Wikipedia, or even Wikimedia. There are no secret server logs, and I'm not sure what they would actually be of. Most of the logs are already there in revisions, and the entire copy of Wikipedia can just be downloaded without anyone's permission and inspected to death. As far as CU checks go, I think we've made a bigger deal of it on wiki than it has, in real world implication. They just pull information from the headers, that virtually any server that has a visitor has access to. If a system with a breadth like PRISM can exist and monitor virtually all communication traffic across multiple countries, - in comparison, figuring out someone's header info or extracting their browser choice and IP address would be the least useful thing to them. And then drowned between a deluge of IP addresses, most of which are already dynamic, would reveal what, exactly- a user from Russian fixed a typo today, a user from Spain likes ice cream, someone else uploaded a picture of their dog. I guess what I'm saying is, all this wouldn't be hard to do - but there is absolutely no utility any decent intelligence community can expect to gain from this, when they have access to your email accounts and phone records, this seems like a giant waste of time when 90% of it is already up there for anyone to see. The irony here is perhaps that we're having a discussion about a top-secret government monitoring program on a publicly archived indexed list, most of us using email accounts which the program actually *does* monitor, all to talk about exposure to wikipedia which has no such thing to archive, monitor or hide. Regards Theo http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.foundation/49712/focus=49727 On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:59 PM, Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net>wrote: > If the NSA, CIA, or some other spook agency is getting information off of > Wikimedia servers, they don't have a CU account or anything like that. > They'd have a program running at the operating system level that extracts > the data in a standardised format and sends it off to some secret server > somewhere where it can be collated for data mining purposes. If they have > some way of getting private information, it's going to be well hidden and > not something you or I are likely to (or capable of) stumbling across. > > Cheers, > Craig > > > On 10 June 2013 20:09, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 10 June 2013 10:56, Florence Devouard <anthe...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Precisely, they could ask to have "CU" accounts... > > > > > > There are people who closely monitor who has what powers. > > > > > > - d. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l