> On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Manuel Merz <[email protected]>wrote: >> > I am a little disappointed at the focus by WMF staff on quantitative
I find it distracting, though currently accurate, that this is framed as a "WMF staff" focus. The report makes a point of taling about "FDC staff" instead. How can we set up FDC support, from across the movement, so that we stop talking about "WMF staff" and start talking about "staff supporting the FDC"? In my view, this should be a mix of [staff] from across the movement. This does not get away from the COI problem of having movement entities reviewing how well they are doing, but it adds some of the natural checks and balances of peer review. (I put [staff] in brackets because this could also include FDC support that are not staff. Indeed some aspects of COI suggest that any evaluation group should include non-staff as well.) On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Dariusz Jemielniak <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Manuel Merz <[email protected]>wrote: >> < [focusing on] quantitative metrics over everything else... >> > may have the unfortunate >> > side-effect of encouraging entities to go after easily measurable >> > activities rather than the most effective and worthwhile activities. >> >> instead of setting the focus on "easily measurable" means, I would personally >> prefer a focus on building up the movement's knowledge about sustainable >> outcomes and on how to get there. I agree with Manuel here: we should focus on how to build the movement's knowledge about the most helpful, generative, and sustainable outcomes. And how to expand this knowledge: experiments that will help us learn more about what is possible. (This is important exploration, even if the result of an experiment is not immediately impactful) Dariusz is also right to note that most ideas have some outcomes that can be quantified, and some that cannot: and it is useful to identify each group of outcome. > I personally believe that there may be some confusion about the goals here. > What is important is to seek quantitative metrics WHEN APPLICABLE... < > Typically, all good ideas have some outcomes that can be quantified, as > well as some that can't (or shouldn't). Regards, Sam _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l
