> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Peter Gervai <grin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Martijn Hoekstra >> <martijnhoeks...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Aug 21, 2013 8:56 AM, "Peter Gervai" <grin...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The account and/or underlying IP is >>> blocked. That is the technical impediment. The action that is now a >>> federal >>> offense, it seems, is to defy the warning, by circumventing the block >>> by >>> changing IP and/or account to do what you were told not to do on the >>> warning. >> >> Technicalities aside if I follow you right then it is a federal >> offense to edit Wikipedia when you were told not to (eg. banned but >> _not_ blocked). If that's the case the IP part of the discussion is >> mainly irrelevant as one does not have to evade a block to violate the >> ban. >> >>> The central issue though, that it >>> seems block evasion is a federal offense, is not affected by the >>> difficulty >>> in proving evidence for it. It is the question whether the evasion is >>> a >>> crime that bothers me. >> >> [insert meetoo here] >> >> g >> > > This is actually incorrect, as were some of your comments about the > irrelevance of IP blocks in your prior post. Have a look at some of > the links I posted earlier in the thread, I think the issues should > become more clear. > > To FT2's comments - it's not actually true that the IP ban, or a cease > and desist, have to be specific to a person. In fact in the linked > case, they are blanket to a company. I see no particular reason why > the same reasoning can't be applied to a school, or a church. A > geographic area is probably harder to support. Additionally, we > generally give warnings, and block accounts. For the most egregious > harassment, the only instances I can see this ever coming into play > for Wikimedia, virtually every perpetrator has a long history of > blocked user accounts. I think that makes the debate over the > "personally identifying nature" of IPs irrelevant for this discussion.
Although I don't think it rose to the level that a federal court would take it seriously the Scientology socks are an example. There, ips were usually irrelevant as was the individual identity of users; although we knew a few. Fred _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
