That would be a great idea; but nobody seems to bother. They just start
editing articles right away.



On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Sophie Osterberg
<sosterb...@wikimedia.org>wrote:

> Srikanth, why don't you let them use their sandbox then to learn VE?
>
>
>
>
> 2013/10/15 Srikanth Ramakrishnan <srik.r...@wikimedia.in>
>
> > Honestly speaking I'd disable Visual Editor for new users. They have a
> > tendency of making errors.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Jan Ainali <jan.ain...@wikimedia.se>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From Charles original questions I guess that he would be satisified
> with
> > > something like:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&enablevisualeditor=1
> > >
> > >
> > > which should enable the Visual Editor for users signing up through that
> > > link. If it is possible or not to do that I have no idea.
> > >
> > > *Med vänliga hälsningar,
> > > Jan Ainali*
> > >
> > > Verksamhetschef, Wikimedia Sverige <
> > http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huvudsida
> > > >
> > > 0729 - 67 29 48
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/10/15 Craig Franklin <cfrank...@halonetwork.net>
> > >
> > > > Hear hear.
> > > >
> > > > I know this is a battle that the Foundation's engineers can't
> possibly
> > > win,
> > > > given the circumstances which VE was moved from opt-out to opt-in on
> > > enwiki
> > > > (see
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)&diff=prev&oldid=574251354
> > > > ,
> > > > for those who aren't aware).  Turn it on, turn it off; either way
> > someone
> > > > gets upset.
> > > >
> > > > From a pure technical standpoint, is it possible to put a checkbox on
> > the
> > > > new user page or something so that new users can turn it on without
> > > having
> > > > to delve deep into the untamed wilderness that is the user
> preferences
> > > > page?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Craig
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 15 October 2013 21:54, Richard Nevell <
> > > richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I firmly agree with that, taking a detour to preferences when
> > training
> > > > new
> > > > > editors isn't my preferred method.
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 15 October 2013 12:47, Ziko van Dijk <vand...@wmnederland.nl>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think that for beginners things must be as simple and clear as
> > > > > > possible. Make them manipulate the preferences at the beginning
> of
> > > the
> > > > > > session is already complicated and a waste of time. Don't forget
> > that
> > > > > > beginners already have to learn so many things quickly, so the
> more
> > > > > > you can reduce, the better.
> > > > > > Actually I'd prefer to have a model wiki that looks like
> Wikipedia
> > > but
> > > > > > is best suited to use in trainings.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards
> > > > > > Ziko
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2013/10/15 Charles Andrès <charles.andres.w...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > Thanks, but in FR.Wikipedia.org you only have the opt-out
> option
> > > > > > (disable visual editor) :-(
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Charles
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > Le 15 oct. 2013 à 10:10, Enock Seth Nyamador <
> > kwadzo...@gmail.com>
> > > a
> > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hello Charles,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I don't think there is a way to for this in the registration
> > > > process.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> To enable or disable Visual Editor. Login
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 1. Go to ---> Preferences --> Click Editing tab.
> > > > > > >> 2. At the bottom of Editing page, Check or uncheck the box
> > beside
> > > > > > Enable VisualEditor (only in the main and user namespaces)
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> OR
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Follow this link
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing
> > > > > > >> Then repeat step 2 above.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Hope it helps.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > > >> Enock S. Nyamador.
> > > > > > >>
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> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Charles Andres <
> > > > > > charles.andres.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> Dear all,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> In our new education program with youngs in scholar
> > difficulties,
> > > we
> > > > > > have the problem that only half of the new accounts have the
> visual
> > > > > editor
> > > > > > activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of
> > editing.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for
> a
> > > > > > specific user?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Thanks
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Charles
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> ___________________________________________________________
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