2014/1/9 Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl>: > I totally agree with MZMcBride and Erik. It also depends and what the money > go for. If somebody is paid to bend the rules or use their privileged role, > it is an obvious problem. If somebody is paid a compensation for the costs > incurred in collecting materials (as sometimes is the case with scanners, > photos, etc.), it obviously isn't. And the area between is grey and > undefined. > > As you possibly know, I believe that outright forbidding all paid editing > results in a situation when people still do it, but in secrecy. This is not > good for us, as it increases the amount of work needed to eradicate such > edits. > > I think that we should allow paid edits under certain conditions (although > obviously not allow paid advocacy), when all encyclopedic standards are > fulfilled, but require full transparency and disclosure, to allow better > tracking and evaluation of such edits. I also believe that transparency and > disclosure of even potential COI is crucial (and unfortunately impossible > under current rules). >
Yes, but the question is how to enable such a system. If the rules for paid editors were to be very strict - many paid editors would have still decide to do it in secrecy anyway, as it would have been simply easier for them. It might be like with infamous "registered lobbyst" system in Polish Parliament. Since "registered lobbyst" system was enabled 12 years ago in Polish Parliament only 6 people decided to register, while all other lobbysts still act in secrecy :-) System in German Wikipedia registers institutional/corporal editors - who for sure join the Wikipedia in order to support interest of their institutions/corporations. One can still do it following the Wikipedia rules - for example remove unsourced bias, keep pages updated, fix basic facts, such as the name of CEO etc. And - in the same time one can still have accounts for doing evil things - sockpuppeting in disucssions and votes, forcing obvious bias etc... -- Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>