thanks indeed! I agree with many of the comments (and yes, I don't like bureaucracy neither, I also am very much in favor of moving towards a collaborative and trusting process, although the way you phrased it sounds as if you've assumed we, at the FDC, are against it :)
I think that beyond high-level philosophical comments there needs to be an actual down-to-earth discussion about details. There is a need for constructive proposals on what can be done differently and how, rather than what we don't like. This conversation should be done collaboratively, I think. I do not believe that the upcoming chapters conference is the best possible venue for such a discussion. First, most of the FDC members will not be there, and I think that our presence could be useful. Second, the whole FDC cycle has not finished yet (and it will finish in May). Finally, much more movement activists will be present at Wikimania. That's why I think that 1-2 days before or after Wikimania would be the best time to have an intensive, constructive session on the FDC model. Also, please note that there is an FDC review process ongoing (there is a community driven FDC-advisory group, etc.). Perhaps a good first step would be to coordinate this, <mocking mode on> rather than schedule WMDE-driven redesign </mocking mode off>. In any case, I'm glad the conversation is starting, and I think it would be good to actually schedule some time for a workshop about this. My suggestion is before or after Wikimania, as it is by far the easiest timing for many, including those who do not receive chapter support to attend. best, dariusz "pundit" On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Itzik Edri <[email protected]> wrote: > Thank you Pavel and WMDE board, this is indeed a great constructive > feedback and I strongly agree with most of the your arguments and concerns. > > Itzik > WMIL > > > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Pavel Richter > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Hello everybody, > > > > I have just posted an extensive feedback from WMDE on the FDC process > here > > on meta: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:APG/FDC_portal/Comments/Extensive_feedback_from_WMDE_to_the_FDC_process > > > > The statement was drafted by WMDE's Supervisory Board and myself. > > > > We are very much looking forward to a discussion and I would like to > > encourage everybody to share their thoughts. At the same it would be > great > > if we could keep the discussion on meta so that we have everything in one > > place. > > > > All the Best, > > > > Mit freundlichen Grüßen, > > > > Pavel Richter > > Vorstand > > > > Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. > > Tel.: +49 - 30 - 219 158 260 > > Twitter: @pavel > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > -- __________________________ dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak profesor zarządzania kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego i centrum badawczego CROW Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
