With all due respect, Gerard, not the bearer ofthe message, Tomas, is the problem, the problem arises where there are people who can make decisions with far-reaching consequences - and be selected for it - but then assume one for me unacceptable position against that group whose services are the basis for their own position.

Fuck the Community, who cares, was not the only thing, much worse for me is the meaning, that free knowledge is easier to buy than to get by edits and edits.

Of whose money? By those who make one edit after the other? Taking photos, one after another and upload them?

I know Steffen good enough and I know, that he is able to tell apart explanations which happens within an special group dynamic process. If this has occured, he would not have written this in his blog.

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Am 07.04.2014 12:52, schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
Hoi,
What is it that you intend to do. Hang them and, hang them high??

You already know that it was in a very emotional moment ...

What is your objective? What do you expect as a result and how will that be
in everyone's benefit??
Thanks,
      Gerard


On 7 April 2014 12:16, Tomasz W. Kozlowski <tom...@twkozlowski.net> wrote:

Ziko van Dijk wrote


  I think that a single quote by a unnamed "female Wikimedian", said in
public or in private, is a very small basis for any substantiate
criticism...

Thanks to Chris e-mail's, we now know that the comment was made during a
public session (though I can't find the relevant section in the minutes on
Meta).

That the identity of the person is currently unknown is due to the fact
that it has not been revealed by other participants in that workshop; I'm
sure Chris, and Steffen, and other people know very well who that person is.

I'm used to the secrecy, but I find it deeply disturbing that such a
comment could have been made during a public workshop "in passing";
however, it would fit perfectly in the alleged divisions between some
chapters and their respective communities.

Where the idea that a single entity (here: a chapter) knows better what's
best for a community than the community does itself come from, I'm not sure.


                 Tomasz

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