Wil, we talked about this on IRC, so I won't repeat what I said. But what I did *not* say is that the foundation tends to let the community do what it wants, and it would be against that long-standing tradition for staff to try to force a change in the community.
On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Wil Sinclair <[email protected]> wrote: > First off, I said that about Greg, and I firmly believe it. He's > uncovered many controversies at Wikipedia. In fact, his article was > the first to be critical of Lila's appointment, and- save the rather > petty comment about airline fees at the end- was pretty on-point. That > doesn't mean that I agree with everything Greg says, just that I > personally am glad someone is saying it. He added *Wil Sinclair*, > Partner of Lila Tretikov (Wikimedia Foundation executive director); > I'd prefer he just leave it at "Wil Sinclair," but it's really his > call on what he puts on his own site. > > Now, I don't know what Lila thinks of this- and I don't want to know- > but I would really like to understand if there is a chance for any > leader to change the concerning aspects of the WP community at this > point. I know that if there is, it's likely to be a very strong, > charismatic leader like Lila. But if there isn't, then so be it and > it's better to know now. And I'm pretty sure that if the community > here wants positive change, it has to be ready to talk about the hard > problems- no matter who brings them up. Whatever happens, Lila is > going to land on her feet; no one need worry about her. But, again, > that's all just my opinion. > > I know you didn't ask me for a response, but this mail is all about me > so I felt justified chiming in. Thanks for (intentionally) taking it > to the list this time. :) > > ,Wil > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Pete Forsyth <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Dear Lila, > > > > I think many of us are interested in how you will engage with the > Wikimedia > > community, what kind of outcomes you will seek, and what kind of tactics > > you will employ in seeking those outcomes. > > > > Can you please clarify whether you believe it is possible for somebody > with > > a close connection to you to influence public perceptions in > > disproportionate, and significant, ways? If so, do you consider it a > > legitimate option for you to (privately) assert your right to establish > > yourself in your new position, rather than letting them take the lead? > > > > I think what has happened in the last few days is extraordinary. I've > never > > seen anything like it. While I am sure that Wil's intentions are good, > > frankly, if his desire had been to sabotage your new job, I can't imagine > > what more effective path he could have chosen. > > > > I'm not sure if this link has any meaning to you, as you are still > getting > > to know the various people and dynamics in the community. But I wonder > what > > others think of it. Does anybody know if the following quote is accurate? > > And regardless of whether it's accurate or not -- the events of the last > > week have certainly made it seem plausible, haven't they? > > > > Is this really the best way for the new Executive Director to be > introduced > > to the Wikimedia community and the world? > > > > > > - *<Wikipedia> is lucky to have people like Greg [Kohs]; even if he > > never directly contributes to WP going forward, we're all well aware > that > > he's a very intelligent and eloquent individual with a knack for > > investigative reporting. He holds WP and the WMF to their word, and I > > personally thank him for that.* - *Wil Sinclair*, Partner of Lila > > Tretikov (Wikimedia Foundation executive director) - May 22, 2014 > > > > > > > http://mywikibiz.com/index.php?title=Directory%3AGregory_J._Kohs&diff=463158&oldid=462896#Cheers > > > > -Pete > > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Lila Tretikov <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> This is a personal note to clarify a some questions that recently came > up, > >> specifically in the context of my role as the incoming ED. > >> > >> > >> My partner Wil and I are partners in our private lives. We have always > both > >> been extremely independent, and we respect that in each other. That > said we > >> have different roles: I am the Executive Director with responsibilities > >> towards the Foundation and the movement, and he is an independent > community > >> member with his own voice. > >> > >> I make my decisions using my own professional judgement in conjunction > with > >> input from the community and staff. I don’t consult Wil on these > matters, > >> ask him to do anything on my behalf or monitor his engagements with the > >> community. When I speak here, it is in my capacity as an ED. > >> > >> Wil, on the other hand, has a very strong personal interest in the > >> community and agreat deal of curiosity about how the Wikimedia > >> projectswork. It is very important to him that he remains an > >> independent individual > >> able to speak with his own voice and ask his own questions. He does not > >> take direction from me. He will not work for the WMF or engage with the > WMF > >> employees. > >> > >> I hope this addresses some of the questions and draws distinction > between > >> my role as ED and Wil’s participation as an independent member. If you > have > >> any questions for Wil you can reach him directly. If you have any > questions > >> for me or the WMF, you can get a hold of me by email or on my talk page. > >> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Lila > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
