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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of rupert THURNER Sent: 08 June 2014 17:27 To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons and OCILLA Would it make sense to deploy a server in another country under a domain not owned by the foundation? E.g. Switzerland? Rupert Am 08.06.2014 14:10 schrieb "Jeevan Jose" <[email protected]>: > BTW, why we have separate policies for Commons and Wikipedia? I just > noticed that photographs deleted from Common per "not free in source > country" are restored by our own (Commons) admins in English Wikipedia. > > > Jee > > > On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 5:18 PM, geni <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 8 June 2014 12:21, matanya <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > Commons licensing policy determines media should be free in source > > > country and in US. I want to propose We change the policy to be: > > > "free in source country" only, and to cope with US laws where the > > > servers are hosted found a "DMCA take down notice" Team in OTRS, > > > that will handle requests to remove Items that are non-free in the > > > US after verifying proper grounds for the claim. > > > > > > This approach to copyright will prevent issues like URAA issues, > shorter > > > term issues and restored copyright issues. > > > > > > > No it it won't. UK restored a bunch of copyrights when EU went > > life+70 > > > > > > > > > > > > It will enrich commons with many files that are FREE (mostly PD) > > > in source country, but not on commons due to US laws. Unless the > > > copyright holder (mostly Gov's and archives) will not request > > > removal, and they won't since they released the media, we will be using > > > those files. > > > > > > > If the government held the copyright then you contact them and ask > > them about their position on potential overseas copyrights. > > > > > > > I'm not a lawyer, so I probably missed most of the legal > > > implication, But I do volunteer to found and lead the team, if > > > this idea is accepted and commons community would want this policy > > > change. I'm seeking input from copyright experienced users and > > > lawyers, before i start an > official > > > policy change on commons. > > > > > > > > The main problem that you hit is that "free in source country and > > in > US" > > is a pretty good proxy for "free pretty much anywhere" (well unless > > the source country is the US but that's a separate problem). For > > example depending on how you read Saudi law there are a bunch of > > photos that are free in Saudi Arabia and pretty much nowhere else > > (Switzerland perhaps) > but > > unless our resuser know their way around over 100 copyright systems > > they probably aren't going to know that. Thus from a reuse POV > > commons goes > from > > being useful (as long as you allow for US weirdness) to being (from > > a copyright perspective) a radioactive mess. > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
