On 18 June 2014 16:16, Magnus Manske <[email protected]> wrote: > It would just have to be ported to Commons once there's a native WIkiBase > installation. If it will be ported at all. > > Is it really worth the fuss, so we can tinker for a few months? (I would > genuinely like to know!)
Only if the end result is usable for the *majority* of active Commonsists without having to break new ice all the time.[1] If the workflow is: 1. Become a Wikidata volunteer, have long debates with other Wikidata volunteers and fix missing "big stuff" such as mapping to OTRS tickets, licence types or working out from scratch the differences between Wikimedia Commons categories for UK counties, historic county boundaries, UK vs. EU vs. unitary authority defined county boundaries ... and that's just the "level 2" location boundaries, 2. Learn to create Lua templates from scratch, 3. Get the WMF to fix some fundamental blocking bugs, 4. While you are there, gain a consensus on Commons for translation formats across all categories, templates and image pages, 5. Probably several other stumbling blocks I have not thought of, having never done this before and having no real case studies to compare to... Then this looks like a lot of barriers to success, considering that I believe this has had significant/serious funding, and been intensively discussed at many international conferences and on email lists for a period of years now, without these barriers being removed. Every time I read these discussions (I tend to save time by doing something more productive) they seem to be talking hypothetically about future plans which are always a year or two away, before we can see anything I could realistically and systematically incorporate into a batch upload, without it being considered highly experimental. I think it's already too late to do anything meaningful to bring Wikidata to Commons in 2014, as I don't even see a community agreed plan being presented at Wikimania rather than more of the same promotional and hypothetical presentations about what Wikidata might be able to do; if I have missed a plan with committed dates, perhaps someone could provide a link in this thread. Links 1. Which I tend to define minimally as this list <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:F%C3%A6/Userlist>, perhaps unfairly as it excludes folks like admins with fewer than 10,000 edits. ;-) Fae -- [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
