you know that we agree on most topics lodewijk. but on this one we do not :) i d be glad if i can make a picture of something by what i read and not by what i am allowed to read by an arbitrary list moderator, who probably does not even have my cultural context.
if somebody does write too often without adding value anybody on the list is free to drop a private mail to this person. this works. especially this works with russavia. rupert. Am 19.06.2014 09:20 schrieb "Lodewijk" <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>: > Please note that moderation is not a punishment: it is imposed as a measure > to avoid future posts within a certain pattern of expectation when there > are reasonable grounds to do so. > > I think many people will agree that Russavia has been uncivil on quite a > few occasios - I would even go as far as that I'm not surprised any more if > (s)he is uncivil on this list. Therefore, I think there is a reasonable > expectation that the pattern will continue - and I find it acceptable to > moderate a person in such a situation to ensure future posts will be > posterboys of civilty (well, or at least somewhat moderate). > > I'm confident that the list moderators will moderate timely, will let > through decent posts that approach civilty and that they will remove the > moderation once the expectation of uncivil posts has been reversed (for > example, when Russavia stopped making them). > > I do second the insinuated requests by Tomasz and Fae that other people > should be held to the same standards in the future, and they be moderated > too when a pattern of uncivil behavior develops. > > Best, > Lodewijk > > > 2014-06-19 1:31 GMT+02:00 Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com>: > > > On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I have taken a moment to find a relevant reference to back up my > > > memory, see [1] which shows Salvio giuliano vigorously defending his > > > use of the word "butthurt". Salvio giulano is a current English > > > Wikipedia Arbcom member. I have not bothered to research further use > > > of this word by other current or past Arbcom members. > > > > > > I think most readers of this list will find it odd to see that > > > "butthurt" used in a mild and colourful context on this list by > > > Russavia, gets highlighted and becomes a matter of objection by > > > Newyorkbrad, a current Arbcom member, resulting in Russavia being > > > moderated for an unspecified duration, while another Arbcom member has > > > previously stated that his use of the same rude word is perfectly > > > appropriate and legitimate public behaviour for himself in the rough > > > and tumble of frank discussion. > > > > > > Could the rationale for moderation be restated please, so that > > > Russavia better understands what was unacceptable about his post here, > > > and could we please have an idea as to what duration moderation is > > > expected? > > > > > > Links > > > 1. > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/CheckUser_and_Oversight/2012_CUOS_appointments/OS/Salvio_giuliano&diff=499668471&oldid=499659747 > > > > > > PS I have not discussed this email with Russavia, nor has Russavia > > > canvassed me about it. > > > > > > Fae > > > -- > > > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > > > > > > > > > > This is the same discussion where you described using the word butthurt > as > > offensive in any context, inflammatory, uncivil, disrespectful and > possibly > > defamatory? What, again, was your complaint with Russavia being moderated > > for writing it? > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
