Aren't you mixing things a little bit ?

Nobody denies that there are problems with video support, Search engine and
image display. But this is not (completely) the responsability of the
Commons community. The software is provided by the foundation, and we deal
with what they give us. If you want to point fingers, point them in the
right direction.

Regarding the URAA shitstorm in a teacup, I will stand on my position:
Saying "It's not our problem, and we won't provide legal advice or help if
there is any problem" (ie: "I wash my hands of it") is not very helpfull.
The position of the BoT and the statement from the legal team are at least
confusing and a open door to problems.

The current situation at hand is messy, and not very well handled by the
community, I will admit that. Quoting from a famous movie: "it's a huge
shit sandwich, and we're all gonna have to take a bite", but adding manure
to shit will not help to sweeten the taste.

Le 27 juin 2014 09:22, "MZMcBride" <> a écrit :

> Pete Forsyth wrote:
> >On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Erik Moeller <>
> wrote:
> >>than aggressively purging content in the fear that a single byte of
> >> potentially non-free content may infect the repository.
> >
> >You're attacking a straw man. I hope you do not sincerely believe anybody
> >acts out of such a childish fear. Rather, we have committed volunteers at
> >Commons who take seriously our commitment to the world, to provide a
> >repository of files that can be (pretty) reliably reused under a free
> >license, or as public domain materials. Maintaining the integrity of the
> >collection, in the face of literally hundreds of problematic uploads every
> >single day, is a big job, and certainly some less-than-ideal decisions
> >will be made along the way.
> >
> >Apart from the moaning I see on this email list, I generally hear good
> >things from those who visit Wikimedia Commons. "Tragedy?" Citation needed,
> >for real.
> Uploading media to Commons isn't as awful today as it once was. That's
> nice. But video support is pretty awful. Search support is pretty awful.
> Even browsing images is pretty bad. Support for moving (renaming) files is
> rudimentary and restricted. And there are many other flaws... but you're
> right that it probably doesn't amount to a tragedy quite yet. There's
> plenty of moaning on this e-mail list, but the issues are alive and real.
> I largely agree with Erik. Users at the extremes have the power at Commons
> and this reality is actively damaging the wiki culture. Commons isn't
> alone in having this problem: the defensive (and hostile) response to the
> firehose is expected and predictable. But it still remains a real problem.
> MZMcBride
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