On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The current mobile site and the current Android app reflect a major step > backward in terms of attributing the authors of Wikipedia content. > > In February 2012, I initiated discussions that resulted in both the mobile > site and the Android app clearly stating in the footer that the content was > written by "volunteers like you," with a link to the page history, and > thereby, the user accounts of all users. > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34673 > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35616 > > While a mere link to the desktop site's history screen was considered > sufficient, by the WMF's then-general counsel, to meet the letter of the > law (of the CC BY-SA license), what we discussed in those tickets was how > the WMF could exceed what is legally required, in order to demonstrate to > the world what it looks like to properly attribute the contributors of > content who require attribution as part of their choice to create content > for free. > > In those 2012 discussions, WMF staff also acknowledged that there were > benefits to going even further in that direction, by pulling the page > history into the mobile view/app itself. > > However, in 2014, both the mobile site and the Android app have footers > that lack any mention of the authors of the article, merely inserting a > link that says: "Desktop" (on the mobile site, which is still a click away > from "history") and "Last updated June 29" (on the Android app). > Pete, before making such strong public statements condemning our products, it might help to use them :) Both the new native apps and the mobile web site offer a mobile-friendly page history (like this one: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Babe_Ruth). On the apps it's accessible from the footer, and on the web view the link is given an extremely prominent place in the UI, at the top of all articles (the "Last edited by.." line). I'd recommend you follow the WMF blog to stay abreast of our work on this and other mobile features, since we wrote about this back in May: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/05/02/the-wikipedia-editors-behind-the-curtain/ > > Is the WMF is serious about honoring the copyright licenses Wikipedia's > contributors work under, which require attribution, both technically and in > spirit? > > Pete > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:34 PM, Erik Moeller <e...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andy Mabbett > > <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: > > > > > It's interesting to read that claim in the content of my "aversion" to > > > the unexpected removal of the very useful 'nearby' feature from the > > > Android app [1]. > > > > (...) > > > > > [1] Promoted by the WMF at the time of its launch: > > > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/05/29/wikipedia-nearby-beta/ and widely > > > reported in the press. > > > > Apologies for the thread-split, but this is OT from the original thread. > > > > This blog post actually referred to the Mobile Web, where the feature > > continues to be available (without a map view): > > http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby > > > > The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's > > a complete re-write in native code -- one which by all accounts has > > been extremely well received. In determining the feature set, the team > > looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the > > first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the > > beta. > > > > We are in the lucky position to now have a team of three full-time > > developers working on the app to make it continually better. You can > > see the most recent code changes here: > > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/apps/android,n,z > > > > And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello: > > > > > https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhancements > > > > So you can expect a pretty fast pace of change. > > > > The team prioritized features that were highly requested and popular > > among users. The "nearby" feature in the old app also relied on third > > party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user > > privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own > > OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in > > further developing such geo-functionality. > > > > CCing Dan (PM for Apps) in case he wants to weigh in on the roadmap. > > > > Erik > > -- > > Erik Möller > > VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Maryana Pinchuk Product Manager, Wikimedia Foundation wikimediafoundation.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
