Congratulations to all involved, this is quite an auspicious start to a
project with a really remarkable amount of promise.

Best,
Kevin Gorman


On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Cornelius Kibelka <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Looks really nice. Could you send an update, when the files are uploaded?
> And a blog post would be wonderful :)
>
> Best!
> C.
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> On 16 July 2014 18:02, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > WOW
> > Gerard
> >
> >
> > On 16 July 2014 17:31, Milos Rancic <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > I am finally able to share with you the biggest benefit of WMRS
> > > Microgrants projects for this year. It's about cooperation with one
> > > very old institution, and it was necessary to wait for their formal
> > > letter.
> > >
> > > But first about the side effects of the Microgrants project...
> > >
> > > When you are going outside and tell people that you are willing to
> > > support their projects, it could lead into interesting outcomes. It is
> > > important to understand possibilities which could be opened and catch
> > > them.
> > >
> > > We got one interesting proposal. It was about a long term project of
> > > making photos of one person. The project was very interesting, but it
> > > turned out that it's not suitable to be supported by Wikimedia, as
> > > well as the amount of needed money is so small, that I am able to fund
> > > it personally.
> > >
> > > However, that was not the end. That guy, an amateur photographer (with
> > > professional skills) is actually the top Serbian lector. He proofread
> > > the Orthography of Serbian language.
> > >
> > > He is also a lexicographer, working in Matica srpska [1].
> > >
> > > So, we met in my office. While drinking some alcohol, besides his own
> > > project, we were talking about the state of Serbian lexicography and
> > > culture in general.
> > >
> > > We were talking about Matica srpska, as well; about present financial
> > > state of the institution, which has money for salaries and the most
> > > important projects, but doesn't have for a number of projects.
> > >
> > > I had bold ideas, of course, but I was quite skeptical about rational
> > > possibility of cooperation between WMRS and Matica srpska. However, he
> > > convinced me that the president of MS is likely willing to cooperate
> > > and that we should talk about that.
> > >
> > > So he told me that he'll arrange the meeting with the president and
> > > that we should talk about that.
> > >
> > > Few weeks later I led WMRS delegation (our ED Mile and our program
> > > manager Ivana were in the delegation) to the initial talks with MS.
> > >
> > > I think we were talking two hours. And I am quite confident to tell
> > > you that on June 20th, 2014 happened one historical event, not just
> > > for Wikimedia Serbia, but also for Serbian culture and free knowledge.
> > >
> > > I wasn't able to talk about this till today, when we got formal letter
> > > from MS, which summarize our meeting and emphases their commitment to
> > > accessibility of knowledge to as much people as it's possible.
> > >
> > > If you are in Slavic culture in general, you should know what Matica
> > > srpska is. As the most of you are not, here is the story in short...
> > >
> > > MS is the oldest cultural and scientific institution in Serbia. They
> > > are the main lexicographical and encyclopedistic institution in
> > > Serbia. It isn't easily comparable with large cultures, but,
> > > basically, if we don't count independent institutions, 90% of
> > > dictionaries and the most important encyclopedias have been created
> > > inside of MS or with MS as the leader of the project.
> > >
> > > We share one important trait with the institutions like MS is. It's
> > > about long term goals. We want to start cooperation and develop it.
> > > So, we are starting with cooperation slowly. During the next year our
> > > goal is to liberate two dictionaries. One is ornithological, the other
> > > one covers dialects of Vojvodina.
> > >
> > > That's just the beginning, of course. Their editions are the main
> > > dictionaries of Serbian language and we'll discuss the next year about
> > > the steps toward liberating them. They are also in charge for creation
> > > of national encyclopedia, but it has its own Board and during the next
> > > months we should start talking with the Board, as well.
> > >
> > > The significance of this cooperation for Wikimedia is that we are at
> > > the beginning of the first close relations with one main national
> > > cultural institution, which focus is creating dictionaries and
> > > encyclopedias. They share our goals, as well as they want to cooperate
> > > with us.
> > >
> > > And it's not just about liberating content because we will help it
> > > financially. It's their commitment, as well. They want to share their
> > > content on Internet. With our (technological, licensing etc.) help,
> > > they will become the institution which shares their content by
> > > default, no matter if we are involved or not.
> > >
> > > I know that this story is not applicable in many cases. It's not
> > > rational to expect that the University of Oxford would do the same.
> > > However, I am sure that this story *is* applicable in many cultures of
> > > the similar size, like Serbian is.
> > >
> > > It is also important that the visibility of Wikimedia organizations
> > > all over the world is very important. You could get something very
> > > valuable if you show that you are friendly.
> > >
> > > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matica_srpska
> > >
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