> On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:45 AM, Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's contradicted by, among other things, ACTRIAL as mentioned above. The
> en.wp community came to a clear consensus for a major change, and the WMF
> shrugged and said "Nah, rather not."

That's... Not exactly what I remember happening there. What I remember was that 
a pretty good number (~500) of enwiki community members came together and 
agreed on a problem, and one plan for how to  fix it and asked the WMF to 
implement it. The WMF evaluated it, and saw a threat to a basic project value. 
WMF then asked "what's the problem you're actually trying to solve?", and 
proposed and built a set of tools to directly address that problem without 
compromising the core value of openness. And it seems to have worked out pretty 
well because I haven't heard a ton of complaints about that problem since. 

Philippe Beaudette
Director, Community Advocacy
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