Hi, I forgot to mention that we use a lot of template messages on talk pages to inform users about something. In a part of these templates we automatically add categories because we want to track the users who have problematic behaviour. Testing this by adding a category to a message in Flow gives no result.
Another issue I think of are deleted files and templates. They show up in categories and special pages to be fixed. Also often messages are copied to another page, including all the wikisyntax. I haven't found any way to do that. Going from a Flow page to a non-Flow page. This is a basic thing. Also, so far I have seen, it is not possible to create a page with all the discussions about a certain topic. This is currently possible to keep an overview. The option Permanent link is not working as I would expect. It is good that there is a way to link to an individual topic (that is what Permanent link currently does), but we also like and need the possibility to link to a certain revision of a message. (This also would mean that if I post a message, someone else reacts on it, I have to change my message and the other person does it as well in his, that the permanent link to an earlier version should show the topic as it was on that certain moment in time.) I also found a bug, the links of the history page do not work in Dutch: https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:S1uggs1vsnq6d8g8&action=history&uselang=nl One last thing I somehow notice that Flow gives me some feeling of clumsiness. I can't qualify it yet somehow. Some buttons are not on intuitive places. But what concerns me is that it is no longer a wiki way of editing/responding. The community loses control over their pages and messages as it is all fixed in the software. Flow takes away the ability to organize and I do not think that is good development. I can understand and imagine that Flow can be handy to reply on each other, but the thing that Wikipedia (and MediaWiki) makes great is the ability to re-organize. The community loses with the current state of Flow to much their control over the content of talk pages. Greetings, Romaine 2014-09-06 23:23 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru>: > On 06.09.2014 23:14, Romaine Wiki wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I did a couple if simple tests on MediaWiki on Flow pages with often >> occurring edits. The tests failed. >> >> ... > > So, there is flow, and instead of the community can work with it as it >> needs to work with, it does not flow but got stuck... >> >> To answer the question, To Flow or not to Flow, it does not flow. I am not >> able to do simple edits which are done every day. >> >> Romaine >> > > Hi Romaine > > thanks for the great post. > > May be indeed a good starting point would be to invite the community (not > only en.wp and large projects, but also non-wikipedia and small projects) > to list all functionalities of the talk pages they need and then discuss > whether they are absolutely needed or we can survive without them. I am not > aware of this discussion ever taken place (at least I am fairly active in > several Wikimedia projects for a pretty long time and I have never heard > about it). > > Cheers > Yaroslav > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
