I was always a little surprised by the name Wikimedia Conference. After all, that name would most logically belong to the big, open, week-long event that draws over a thousand people together to talk about every aspect of the movement.*
However, that event is already called Wikimania, which also doesn't make sense to me. In James F's phrase , it's a bit of a lie, as it doesn't deal with mania or other mental health issues, and it isn't exclusively attended by men (except to a very broad approximation). Therefore I propose we start by renaming Wikimania to the Wikimedia Conference. That leaves open what we call the slightly boring get-together where we talk about how movement organisations can improve their governance and programme measurement. As an interim step I suggest using the now-unused term Wikimania until a suitable committee can determine the correct name for the event, hopefully before the event occurs. So I am just heading over to Meta to move all Wikimania pages to the name Wikimedia Conference and vice versa. I trust this will clarify the matter. *NB please ignore the rest of the post from this point forward. On 12 Sep 2014 07:31, "Pine W" <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > One additional nice benefit from having the affiliates conference be a > pre-Wikimania conference is that those who don't want to or are excluded > from the affiliate portions of the event can attend other portions like the > education pre-conference or the pre-conference hackathon. > > Can we please move this discussion to Meta? > > Thanks, > > Pine > > On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Ed Saperia <edsape...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > It would, however, significantly increase the work for the Wikimania > > organisers. They didn't sign up to programme and organise an affiliate > org > > conference, so they shouldn't have to if they don't want to. > > > > Guestlists cause all sorts of politics, but are a necessary evil when > > dealing with limited resources. Choices must be made, and it's up to the > > hosts to decide who gets to come. A mission statement for the conference > > might help alleviate some of the bad feeling, but there will inevitably > be > > some as long as there are fewer places than people. > > > > Ed Saperia > > Conference Coordinator Wikimania London > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On 12 Sep 2014, at 01:44, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > I like the idea of having this event be a pre-conference for Wikimania. > > > That may reduce total travel costs and travel time for the people who > > > usually attend both events. This may also simplify planning for people > > and > > > thorgs. > > > > > > Pine > > >> On Sep 11, 2014 5:25 PM, "Pete Forsyth" <petefors...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > > >> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Richard Symonds < > > >> richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: > > >> > > >>> What I'm saying is, let's plan a conference before we argue over the > > >> name. > > >> > > >> > > >> But, most of the people on this list wouldn't have anything to do with > > this > > >> conference -- surely there's a better resource for > conference-planning. > > >> > > >> The thing most of us have a stake in is the name of the conference, > and > > -- > > >> perhaps -- nothing more. > > >> > > >> Pete > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > > >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>