The day before yesterday I was presented a fundraising banner in Switzerland which redirects to the donation page of Wmf, contrary the chapters page.
Rupert On Nov 26, 2014 3:18 PM, "Kim Bruning" <k...@bruning.xs4all.nl> wrote: > Just following up, > > Has WMNL now received the sought information? > > sincerely, > Kim Bruning > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 08:42:01AM +0100, Lodewijk wrote: > > It seems everyone agrees it is an important method (although I'm not 100% > > sure that the US based people running the fundraiser fully comprehend - I > > am assuming this is the case), but there seems to be some reason why the > > WMF chooses to not make this option easily available. A reason they > choose > > not to disclose, but to be fuzzy about. I'm very sorry about this, and as > > Liam says, this fits in a trend with the Russian people no longer being > > allowed to donate. Maybe the two are connected, but this is all > > speculation. > > > > I'm sorry to see these steps back from the more open attitude there was a > > few years back. It feels very much that we are, as a community, being fed > > canned press answers. But then, maybe there's a real need for that and > > there's a huge legal threat to making it easy to donate through bank > > transfer that cannot be disclosed... > > > > Best, > > Lodewijk > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2014 at 1:34 AM, Kim Bruning <k...@bruning.xs4all.nl> > wrote: > > > > > > > > To amplify: > > > > > > Paying (business) taxes in The Netherlands now pretty much requires > > > electronic payment to an IBAN Account; a.k.a. it is (now) the standard, > > > default, baseline way to make payments at all. > > > > > > After registering a business, the very next action is to open an (IBAN) > > > account. All extant dutch accounts that predate IBAN have been > converted > > > to IBAN. All administration systems (must(!)) support IBAN. > > > > > > If you want to do business in the Netherlands, you need to support > IBAN. > > > > > > Note that many (most?) dutch citizens do not have credit cards or > paypal > > > accounts. > > > > > > Further, IBAN is standardized throughout the euro-zone. > > > > > > iDEAL is nice to have and important. IBAN is a minimal baseline > > > requirement. > > > > > > sincerely, > > > Kim > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:42:31PM +0100, Walter Vermeir wrote: > > > > Op 17-11-14 om 20:28 schreef Lodewijk: > > > > > > > > > you back to the credit card page) or even via regular bank transfer > > > (using > > > > > an IBAN) in the Netherlands. The donation page > > > > > > > > Historically the structure of bank account numbers are very different > > > > from country to country. And making transfers from one bank account > to > > > > an other bank account, especially internationally, are/where complex > and > > > > expensive. > > > > > > > > There is still a lot of room of improvement but nevertheless it has > > > > never been so easy and cheap to do international transfers as now. > > > > > > > > The IBAN system - International Bank Account Number - is active in a > > > > fair chunk of the globe. > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Bank_Account_Number#Adoption > > > > > > > > Inside the EURO-zone , 19 countries, ?? 337 million Europeans , > people > > > > can make a bank transfer to an EURO-zone IBAN bank account without > > > > additional expenses. > > > > > > > > Many more outside the EURO-zone can easy make international payments > to > > > > an IBAN bank account. That is not free ... but paypal is certainly > not > > > > free also. The costs are just deducted from your donation. > > > > > > > > > > > > The WMF has always has been a huge fan of payment by credit cards. > > > > Understandable, the WMF is founded in the country of the Credit card. > > > > > > > > But that can make you blind to the fact that other people are used to > > > > total other payment systems. > > > > > > > > A couple of years ago I discovered that there where still people > using > > > > cheques in France. That came as a total surprise to me. I remember my > > > > dad using cheques 30 years ago. I never came in to contact with a > cheque > > > > since then. To my knowledge cheques where long gone. History. > Extinct. > > > > > > > > But ... when you have the financial business concept of the WMF - > when > > > > you need money beg for it - the donation channel should be tailer > made > > > > for the specific common way of payment used by the person who is so > good > > > > to be willing to make an donation. > > > > > > > > Walter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > -- > [Non-pgp mail clients may show pgp-signature as attachment] > gpg (www.gnupg.org) Fingerprint for key FEF9DD72 > 5ED6 E215 73EE AD84 E03A 01C5 94AC 7B0E FEF9 DD72 > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
