Hi Asaf! I was reading the presentation on metrics and the point about Mexico's decreasing of views on Wikipedia called my attention.
From your answer to Scott I read that those are only statistics from enwiki, do you know if the same happened in eswiki or, conversely, eswiki grow the number of views? In the last case I could assume that we are "converting" English readers into Spanish readers and it might be taken as a normal "migration". Although in the first case I would be worried because we are loosing those readers definitely and it would be needed adjust some strategies in our country. Sorry if I'm doing a simplist reading of the metrics. Regards! El jueves, 4 de diciembre de 2014, Asaf Bartov <abar...@wikimedia.org> escribió: > On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 1:23 PM, C. Scott Ananian <canan...@wikimedia.org > <javascript:;>> > wrote: > > > Thanks everyone for a fantastic metrics meeting. > > > > I had two questions which I raised on IRC which didn't get a chance to > > be addressed. Briefly: > > > > 1) Is the rise in global south page views specifically to *enwiki*, or > > is it to local wikis? > > > > Not actually an either/or. The answer seems to me to be "yes", i.e. all > wikis -- that is, all projects, all languages. > > > > It seems that our thinking about redirecting to localized content and > > the rise of mobile in the global south should be informed by these > > analytics. Are folks coming to enwiki because that's where the > > content and editors are? > > > Some definitely do. Another major factor, mentioned today, is that in some > countries, mobile devices just don't come with good local languages > support, and people are putting up with that and using what the device does > give them, which are generally the major, colonial languages. > > > > If so we might be doing readers a disservice > > by redirecting them to a local wiki without the content they are > > seeking. (Perhaps the Content Translation tool can help.) If our > > userbase in the global south is coming from mobile, than it is > > important to provide localized editing tools for mobile; less so if > > they are primarily English-speaking and can take advantage of the > > desktop editors of enwiki. > > > Remember that while "global south" is a shorthand label we use for > convenience to group together a large number of countries, it's often quite > misleading to generalize about it, *particularly* around language > questions. > > In Anglophone Africa, for example, most people are used to looking for > information online in English and not in indigenous languages. But in > Brazil, people consume information in Portuguese, but many (16%) also refer > to the English Wikipedia (and intriguingly, 1 in 3 *edits* from Brazil is > to ENWP!), presumably for its broader coverage or higher average quality. > In Ukraine, 70% read the Russian Wikipedia and only 17% read the Ukrainian > Wikipedia; interviews tell me this is largely due to device defaults, > beyond the obvious different in size and average quality. > > This page reveals some of those breakdowns: > > http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportPageViewsPerCountryBreakdown.htm > > > > Will investment in the Content Translation > > tool affect the balance between enwiki and local wiki pageviews going > > forward? > > > > That would be one long-term effect to watch for, I think! > > Thanks for digging up further info! > > A. > > -- > Asaf Bartov > Wikimedia Foundation <http://www.wikimediafoundation.org> > > Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the > sum of all knowledge. Help us make it a reality! > https://donate.wikimedia.org > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > ?subject=unsubscribe> -- *Salvador Alcántar* *@salvador_alc* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
