I posted a link to the WMF Board discussion to this list on 6 December,
it's no problem if you missed it, here it is again:

I quote from that:

"The [UK Fund for Charities channels gifts to validated non-UK based
charities. We were able to use their service this year for large
Wikimania-related donations. They charge 1% for large gifts, making this an
effective way to receive gift aid. However this is not a great solution for
individual donors: for gifts under £100, they charge up to 20%, consuming
most of the gift aid. –SJ talk  00:28, 13 October 2014 (UTC)"

Given the nature of fundraising drives by the WMF (e.g banners) most of the
donations from the UK would surely come from the "under £100" category, and
many of these donations would likely be made because of the gift aid that
is no longer able to be collected by WMUK or the WMF.

Hopefully you can give us some clear answers to the issues which have been
raised on both the Board noticeboard and this list; myself and others feel
we are still none the wiser as to the reality.



On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Lisa Gruwell <> wrote:

> Hi Russavia-
> I haven't seen the specific comment from SJ that you are referencing, but
> I am guessing that he is referring to the Gift Aid percentage match, which
> used to be 20% and is now 25%.  The 1% I mentioned is the processing fee
> WMF pays to the U.K. Fund for Charities for processing our donations.  We
> most often see large donors asking about Gift Aid and that is why we set up
> the account, but it is not exclusively for large donations.  We refer
> anyone who is wishing to add Gift Aid to their donation to our account with
> the U.K. Fund for Charities.
> When I said "in country", I meant anyone wishing to give to the chapter,
> instead of WMF.  Those donations stay with the chapter and do not come back
> to WMF.  We should be able to provide some numbers around this when our
> donor services team comes up for air in January.
> Thank you,
> Lisa
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 12:33 AM, Russavia <>
> wrote:
>> Lisa
>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Lisa Gruwell <>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 2)  When a U.K. donor is looking to add Gift Aid to their donation, we
>> > process the donation through our account with the U.K. Fund for
>> Charities,
>> > which charges 1% for this service and returns the donor data to WMF.
>> When
>> > a donor is looking to donate in country, we direct them to the chapter.
>> Can you please confirm whether you are talking about large donors, or
>> the every day type donors who keep Wikipedia free by clicking on the
>> banners. The reason this is needed is that it contradicts what Sj has
>> stated on the Board noticeboard, where a figure of 20% was mentioned
>> for the nickel and dime donors (which come about by way of the
>> banners, etc).
>> Can you also give some further information on how many of these "in
>> country" donors the WMF has sent WMUK's way? And what $/£ amount would
>> we be talking about here? And are funds from these "in country" donors
>> funnelled back to the WMF?
>> Apologies if this is covered elsewhere.
>> Russavia
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