If MZ doesn't like the Public Broadcasting System, I see no reason for
him to misplace his rage against public television and direct it to
Wikipedia. Certainly PBS forces me to see sponsorship statements that
Wikipedia doesn't force me to see.

I don't actually see the Wikipedia banner ads, so I can't understand
how MZ has conflated his experience with Wikipedia -- where I guess he
does not log in -- with his experience of PBS, whose sponsorship
announcements can't be avoided even if you are a donor.

I do follow the debate about PBS from time to time, but MZ's comments
haven't shown up there for me yet, if he has posted them.


On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 8:10 PM, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> Mike Godwin wrote:
>>Does this mean some platform providers will use Wikipedia Zero to
>>justify their own self-serving economic alliances? Of course it does.
>>But we don't have to let their propagandists define us.
> I think we should be explicit here: in exchange for zero-rated access to
> Wikipedia, the Wikimedia Foundation places a banner at the top of the
> page, inserting a prominent advertisement for the associated
> telecommunications company. So much for "we'll never run advertising," eh.
> I'm still digesting this thread (and I certainly agree with Liam that this
> thread is a showcase for healthy and informed discussion), but I do
> wonder: if Wikipedia Zero is so great, why is Wikipedia Zero only
> available in "developing countries" (which we somehow make more pejorative
> by using the term "Global South")? When will Wikipedia Zero be available
> in the United States or in the United Kingdom?
>>What's more--and this is central--Wikipedia Zero, by encouraging
>>higher usage of Wikipedia without additional costs to users, actually
>>increases demand on the mobile infrastructure. Providers will have to
>>increase capacity to handle the increased demand. In the long run,
>>this promotes overall increased internet access in the developing
>>world. That is an unalloyed positive result, in my view.
> Yeah... both Facebook and Google are trying to sell this same argument:
> they're in it to bring Internet to the world, nothing sinister about that!
> Of course, the reality is far different: both companies are primarily
> interested in mining and selling user data to advertisers. Strange
> bedfellows, to be sure.
> MZMcBride

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