I don't think those pictures are going to be deleted - there are plenty of pictures of cars on commons, and I haven't seen a movement to get them all deleted (I don't spend much time on commons, though, so I might have missed it). I do think it would be a good thing to keep them, but fop should not be the argument.
In my opinion, the relevant issue here would be that the copyright holder is in no way disadvantaged by the creation, copying and publication of the image. However, it is hard to put that type of reasoning into a workable criterion. On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 8:44 PM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wait, are you saying all those pics are going to be deleted then? There > must be tens of 1000's out there by now > > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Andre Engels <andreeng...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> No, they do not. The Dutch title of copyright law considering freedom >> of panorama: >> >> "Als inbreuk op het auteursrecht op een werk als bedoeld in artikel >> 10, eerste lid, onder 6°, of op een werk, betrekkelijk tot de >> bouwkunde als bedoeld in artikel 10, eerste lid, onder 8°, dat is >> gemaakt om permanent in openbare plaatsen te worden geplaatst, wordt >> niet beschouwd de verveelvoudiging of openbaarmaking van afbeeldingen >> van het werk zoals het zich aldaar bevindt. [...]" >> >> Translated, and with the references to article 10 explained: >> "Not considered an infringement of copyright on [a drawing, painting, >> building, sculpture, lithography, engraving or other imagery] or a >> [design, sketch or 3d work] related to architecture, created to be >> placed in public places permanently, is the copying or publishing of >> images of the work in the manner that it resides in that place..." >> >> Not only is a car not "created to be placed in public places >> permanently", it also is not in the list of works for which fop holds >> - insofar as it is a copyrightable work, it is copyrightable under >> part 11 (applied arts) and not part 6 or 8 of article 10. >> >> André >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Are you kidding? Most of WLM photos in the Netherlands have cars in them >> - >> > these all fall under fop >> > >> > On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:23 PM, geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On 11 December 2014 at 18:19, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Yup - it is in the Netherlands - yay! >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Nyet. Netherlands law requires that the work be permanently located in a >> >> public place. Cars would appear to be too mobile to qualify. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> geni >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> >> >> >> -- >> André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> -- André Engels, andreeng...@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
