hi Fae, fair enough, but clearly the Board could decide to delegate the oversight privilege in these cases to community-elected members.
best, dj "pundit" On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:13 PM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dariusz, keep in mind that not all of the "functionaries of high > trust" you give as examples in your email are elected officials, or if > elected have not been elected through a cross-project vote of active > contributors. The WMF board has a voting majority that is *not elected > by us*. > > If there is to be a selected governance mechanism to oversee the > procedures for the exercise of WMF global bans (or whatever they get > called) which may have the power to commute these to a community run > global ban, with the benefit of potential appeal and reform, then that > governance board needs to be credibly elected by the community. > Unelected officials should be welcome as advisers but not controlling > members with a power of veto. > > Fae > > On 20 January 2015 at 13:03, Dariusz Jemielniak <dar...@alk.edu.pl> wrote: > > transparency does not always have to mean full public access to > information > > (in the cases described by Philippe clearly TMI may be e.g. involving the > > community and the foundation in lengthy legal disputes, or endanger a > > discussed individual). However, I definitely understand that we, as a > > community, may have a need to externally confirm the solidity of > reasoning > > behind bans. I think we already have functionaries of high trust (such as > > the Board and/or the stewards) who could oversee the process. > > > > best, > > > > Dariusz Jemielniak a.k.a. "pundit" > > -- > fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > -- __________________________ prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego i centrum badawczego CROW Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl członek Akademii Młodych Uczonych Polskiej Akademii Nauk członek Komitetu Polityki Naukowej MNiSW Wyszła pierwsza na świecie etnografia Wikipedii "Common Knowledge? An Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010 Recenzje Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml Pacific Standard: http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/ Motherboard: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia The Wikipedian: http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>