On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Luis Villa <lvi...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > CC 4 is still only in two (three?) languages (Kat may want to weigh in?) so > it is premature for us to move, I think. But I'm optimistic we'll see > traction in that area soon, and then we can have a movement discussion. > Sorry that we can't force that to happen faster :)
There are only two official translations of the 4.0 suite currently (Norwegian and Finnish), with another ready to publish fairly soon, maybe 10 or so others in progress. (I note that I'm not there anymore, though, and can't speak to how things will go forward.) -Kat > [To be clear, as I've said on Commons, CC 4.0 is clearly already > *acceptable* for imported images - obviously free, etc. We just shouldn't > be encouraging it as the *default* anywhere until there are more languages > and a movement-wide discussion.] > > Luis > > On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Can we get an update on the transition plan to 4.0? I am seeing increasing >> amounts of content with 4.0 licensing across the the web, and would like us >> to move sooner rather than later to 4.0 in order to maintain continuity >> with new content where possible. >> >> I am not a licensing expert and I sometimes get headaches trying to >> deconflict licenses. >> >> Thanks, >> Pine >> On Oct 28, 2014 3:00 PM, "Luis Villa" <lvi...@wikimedia.org> wrote: >> >>> Hi, Rupert- >>> >>> I think the movement as a whole should try to move consistently to 4.0 at >>> roughly the same time. It is confusing to re-users to have to juggle >>> different terms for different pieces of Wikimedia content.[1] So >>> Foundation >>> content will generally remain 3.0 until we make 4.0 the default license >>> across the projects. (I'm aware that some projects have taken this jump on >>> the own, but where I've seen this, I've made similar points - for example >>> < >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries&diff=prev&oldid=622093759 >>> > >>> .) >>> >>> WMF Legal plans to launch a movement-wide 4.0 discussion when CC has >>> issued >>> a solid number of translations, ideally in our largest languages. I >>> understand the first few translations will be published in the next few >>> weeks, and there is a schedule of upcoming translations on CC's wiki >>> <https://wiki.creativecommons.org/Legal_Tools_Translation#4.0>[2]. >>> >>> Realistically, >>> given the holidays, and the lag for large projects, this likely means that >>> discussion will happen early in 2015. >>> >>> Hope that helps- >>> Luis >>> >>> [1] I'm well aware we already have a huge problem with this, but I don't >>> want it to get worse. :) >>> [2] These are updated by the translation teams, not CC itself, so they may >>> not be up-to-date/accurate. >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 2:00 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com >>> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> > Hi yana, would you be so kind to explain why wmf did not opt for the >>> newest >>> > commons license, cc-by-sa 4.0? >>> > >>> > Rupert >>> > On Oct 28, 2014 9:06 PM, "Yana Welinder" <ywelin...@wikimedia.org> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Good point. That line can now be deleted from the trademark template. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:40 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > > Practical question: >>> > > The template: >>> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark >>> > > contains a line: (Consider using {{Copyright by Wikimedia >>> > > <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia >>> >}} >>> > > instead) >>> > > >>> > > Should that line be removed from the Wikimedia trademark template? >>> > > (including all translations) >>> > > >>> > > Romaine >>> > > >>> > > 2014-10-28 10:36 GMT+01:00 Ting Chen <wing.phil...@gmx.de>: >>> > > >>> > > > Really cool, great work. Thank you very much. >>> > > > >>> > > > Greetings >>> > > > Ting >>> > > > >>> > > > Am 10/27/2014 um 06:51 PM schrieb Yana Welinder: >>> > > > >>> > > > Hi folks, >>> > > >> >>> > > >> I'm happy to announce that we are re-licensing the Wikimedia logos >>> on >>> > > >> Commons to CC BY-SA 3.0: >>> > > >> >>> > https://blog.wikimedia.org/2014/10/24/wikimedia-logos-have-been-freed/ >>> > > >> >>> > > >> I would really appreciate your help with replacing the {{Copyright >>> by >>> > > >> Wikimedia}} >>> > > >> < >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia >>> > >[1] >>> > > >> templates on the logos with the {{Wikimedia trademark}} >>> > > >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark >>> >[2] >>> > > and >>> > > >> {{cc-by-sa-3.0}} <https://commons.wikimedia. >>> > > >> org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0>[3] >>> > > >> templates. But we don't want to replace templates on the MediaWiki >>> > > >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg>[4] and the >>> > > >> Community >>> > > >> < >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg >>> > > >[5] >>> > > >> logos, which were originally released under free licenses. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> There are also some pages on Commons, like this one >>> > > >> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing>[6], that >>> may >>> > > need >>> > > >> to >>> > > >> be updated based on the re-licensed logos. >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Thanks, >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Yana >>> > > >> >>> > > >> [1] >>> > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Copyright_by_Wikimedia >>> > > >> >>> > > >> [2] >>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Wikimedia_trademark >>> > > >> >>> > > >> [3] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:Cc-by-sa-3.0 >>> > > >> >>> > > >> [4] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki.svg >>> > > >> >>> > > >> [5] >>> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg >>> > > >> >>> > > >> [6] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Licensing >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > > >>> > > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >>> > > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>> > > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> > > > Unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>> > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> ?subject=unsubscribe> >>> > > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>> > > Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>> > > < >>> > >>> > >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/guidelineswikimedi...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> > > >>> > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>> , >>> > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Yana Welinder >>> > Legal Counsel >>> > Wikimedia Foundation >>> > 415.839.6885 ext. 6867 >>> > @yanatweets <https://twitter.com/yanatweets> >>> > >>> > NOTICE: As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical >>> > reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, >>> community >>> > members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. 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