Hoi,
Reliable is not an absolute. Wikipedia is in the final analysis an
encyclopaedia. It is not original research. Studies have indicated that
Wikipedia is as reliable as its competitors. Wikipedia does link ever more
to the VIAF indicators by the OCLC and thereby it links to the sum of all
knowledge as it is available in libraries.

I think you have it backward. Given that Wikipedia is best of breed, people
do care about Wikipedia Zero. It is why Wikipedia Zero is not part of any
walled garden; it is there for every company who cares to provide it free
of charge.

For the rest I find that I am getting annoyed.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On 5 April 2015 at 01:52, Anthony Cole <ahcole...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No one would care about Wikipedia Zero if Wikipedia was a reliable source.
>
> Anthony Cole <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthonyhcole>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 1:44 AM, Cristian Consonni <kikkocrist...@gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Andreas,
> >
> > 2015-04-02 18:25 GMT+02:00 Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com>:
> > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 3:00 PM, Cristian Consonni <
> > kikkocrist...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> 2015-04-02 15:16 GMT+02:00 Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com>:
> > > As mentioned previously, what I have seen is recent additions to
> > > Internet.org, describing Internet.org app launches bundling Wikipedia
> > Zero
> > > and Facebook Zero (along with a small and varying number of other
> sites)
> > in
> > > the following countries:
> >
> > I need another clarification. As far as I know (and I recall a
> > question in the board Q&A at Wikimania in London), it's internet.org
> > making available Wikipedia content (as per the license) on their app.
> > It is not an initiative of the Wikimedia Foundation and (therefore) it
> > is not related to Wikipedia Zero. Also, internet.org/Facebook can do
> > this thanks to our license (more below). Unless something changed in
> > the last months you can not say that Wikipedia Zero is bundled with
> > Facebook Zero.
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Note that Facebook actually seems to contain a complete mirror of
> > > Wikipedia, judging by the presence of even fairly obscure Wikipedia
> > > articles on its pages (selected using "Random article"). See e.g.
> >
> > This is failry old news, these pages exists since 2010:
> > https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/21721
> >
> > > Given the limitations Wikipedia Zero users labour under, it is actually
> > > fairly immaterial to users whether they see the Wikipedia article in
> > > Facebook Zero or Wikipedia Zero. The key difference is that in Facebook
> > > Zero, they will not see Wikipedia's logo and fundraising banners. (They
> > > also can't see the talk pages in Facebook.) They will have a less clear
> > > impression of Wikipedia's brand, and the whole thing will still
> primarily
> > > be a Facebook experience to them.
> >
> > I see the problem, but this is not related at all with Net Neutrality.
> >
> > This is what you can do with any free/libre content. There is no way
> > to stop Facebook (or Flickr [sic et simpliciter]) from reusing our
> > content. Let me quote SJ (again from the Board Q&A in London) "Please
> > reuse our content". There should be as few limitations as possible to
> > reusing the content, in principle. Wikipedia is the free encyclopedia
> > for this very exact reason after all. Even in a world with the
> > strongest possible Net Neutrality laws in force Facebook will be able
> > to do this.
> >
> > Let me weigh in another argument, I know that the idea of a "Public
> > space on the internet" is accepted even in the framework of Net
> > Neutrality. The idea is that some list of websites that offer public
> > services (e.g. government websites, public libraries websites, schools
> > and universities websites) should always be accessible with no charge.
> > In this view Wikipedia could be included in the list as an educational
> > non-profit (other projects may also be included, e. g. the Khan
> > Academy). Wikimedia Foundation, in this sense, is leading by example.
> >
> > C
> >
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