The farther you go from actually wiki the more cabals you get. Secret teams, secret decisions, powers in single hand or in hand of a tiny group of people selected by criteria unknown. It goes for lists, chats, social media pages and whatever out-of-wiki stuff. It's too sad why can't wikimedia way of open transparent collaboration and discussion be extended on all wikimedia related activity. I'm a naïve person and just don't get it. Aren't we the same people when onwiki and offwiki?

This one example is just one of the many others.

It's obvious that such a thing as moderation of a list should be done by some rules. It's not a tiny list where just believing in common sense of moderators can work. Moderation is like RfD of a sort. We don't just have random admins deleting pages onwiki as they wish. Why do we have it this way with messages on list?

Can someone bring an RfC or whatever large thing onwiki in order to have it regulated finally?

--Base

On 09.06.2015 20:28, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton wrote:
funny, close list, close decisions, heavy moderation... this is away more
present on Wikimedia Movement than should be, but the speech is always the
opposite...
The "free" is just a  slogan, it's not a value...


On 9 June 2015 at 09:24, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks.

Note that secret complaints or allegations that are not shared, are neither
evidence nor a clear rationale for the moderated person.

An open and transparent process is desirable for everyone.

Fae
On 9 Jun 2015 13:04, "David Gerard" <dger...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 9 June 2015 at 12:08, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:

Considering my poor experience on another list of being moderated
without a clear explanation or evidence,

This claim is factually inaccurate. You were put on mod on
wikimediauk-l after multiple complaints from other readers about
repeated obnoxious behaviour on your part, particularly when you
started again after promising you'd stop.

You're off mod now, but please don't start up again.


- d.

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