Completely agree with you Asaf. I don't think it's up to us Wikimedia-l
subscribers, but up to each specific community. We can learn from their
decisions but are on difficult ground if "we" judge them for it. Your third
paragraph was a bit complex for me to "succinctly reword while agreeing
with it", but it's a good starting point. But rather than a "top" list,
perhaps we should be looking at "number of editors/number of speakers"?

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On 7 July 2015 at 00:14, Asaf Bartov <> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 4:08 PM, Richard Symonds <
>> wrote:
> > Are there any Cebuano or Waray community members on the list to offer an
> > opinion?
> >
> There is no likely productive outcome of sharing more opinions on the bot
> issue, even by members of those communities.
> The point of my earlier post was an attempt to:
> 1. derail the rehashing of the Lsjbot-good-or-evil discussion, as it's
> pointless and, quite simply, Not Up To You, as Wikimedia-l subscribers, but
> up to each specific community, as would be discussed in each community's
> on-wiki discussion spaces.
> 2. separate the "top 10" issue that was the original trigger for this
> renewed discussion, and suggest a constructive direction in which that
> anxiety could be fruitfully addressed, quite apart from whether and which
> communities decide to employ Lsjbot to populate their wikis.
> I hope that's clearer now.
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