James you are sure not to be late to the party when cameras like Samsung
Galaxy or better with Android os are available?
http://m.distrelec.ch/en/galaxy-gc200-digital-camera-black-samsung-ek-gc200zkaaut/p/30002970?channel=B2C&gclid=CL2hxpOgjccCFS7KtAodl8cDBA

Rupert
On Aug 1, 2015 2:34 AM, "James Forrester" <jforres...@wikimedia.org> wrote:

> On 31 July 2015 at 06:48, Juan de Vojníkov <juandevojni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to ask, if the ease of media handling (images, photographs
> on
> > Wikimedia Commons) is a priority for Wikimedia Foundation? If not, could
> it
> > be a priority? Recently we have seen a big step done for editors =
> > VisualEditor. Contributors have no longer study "wikicode" to be able to
> > contribute. That removes one of the technological barriers and it looks
> its
> > a priority for WMF.
> >
> > While part of contributing to Wikipedia is still contributing by images.
> I
> > am from Wikimedia Czech republic. We run many projects based on media
> > harvest or organizing *low barrier media harvest activities* to bring new
> > users to Wikipedia.
> >
> >
> > As our newbies are not technologically skilled and not native English
> > speakers, there is a big technology block to contribute to Wikipedia with
> > ease:
> >
> > 1) there is no app for mobile phones and tablets for image upload
> >
>
> ​I don't think having a custom mobile app for uploading files is really the
> key problem.
>
> The quality of media capture on non-specialist mobile devices, and
> especially the general pattern of use for them, is not so good that
> encouraging people in general to upload them for use in Wikipedia articles
> is a good idea. Yes, you *can* take good, educational, useful photos with a
> mobile device, but in general people do not, and when we enabled uploads on
> the mobile desktop we got a lot of very low-value photos, almost all of
> which were deleted (and the users understandably didn't stay around). The
> old tickets at
> https://wikimedia.mingle.thoughtworks.com/projects/mobile/cards/920 and
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53559 for example have some off-handed
> comments about this being the "Selfie Apocalypse".
>
> The hard thing is not grabbing the media file from the user's device, but
> helping users understand what media is appropriate, what is expected, what
> is good, and what won't get immediately deleted by the wiki's community. We
> don't just want to trap people into making a one-off upload contribution –
> we want to encourage people to join the community and stay, taking several
> photos, not just one. :-) I've got some ideas about how we can gently coax
> people into understanding this without scaring them away, but I'm sure
> others have better plans.
>
>
> 2) newbies are lost, when they click on "Upload image" and they are
> > transferred from Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons
> >
> > 3) Wikimedia Commons is in English - foreign language for our
> participants
>
>
>
> 5) Wikimedia Commons environment is still pretty "techy"
>
>
> > 6) Insert metadata, takes a long time:
> >
> > e.g.: you have an image of a cathedral in Des Moines, IW. 3 or 4 times
> you
> > have to insert same information: a) to file name (*Des Moines,
> > cathedral.jpg*), b) to file description (*en:** Cathedral in Des Moines,
> > Iowa, USA*/*es:* *La catedral de XY en Des Moines, Iowa, EEUU*) and c) to
> > the category (*category:Des Moines* or *Churches in Des Moines*,
> > *category:Cathedrals
> > in Iowa*).
>
>
> ​[Answering these three together.]
>
> ​
> ​Yup, that's why our main work in Multimedia right now is making it
> possible to upload a media file from whichever wiki you're on
> ​, and do so whilst you're editing. We're looking to make adding the
> information as simple and painless as possible, without letting people
> upload files without enough information for the community to triage and
> ensure are as high quality as possible.
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T91717
> ​
> ​
> ​
> ​
>
> ​is the overall work, and https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T40030 will be
> the integration into VisualEditor (we'll do it for users writing in
> wikitext as well, of course)​.
>
>
>
>
> > 4) biggest language barrier are categories, which are in English only, we
> > need to insert name of the category in our mother tongue
> >
>
> ​That is true. The long-term hope in this area is using Wikibase (the
> software behind Wikidata) to add proper structured data to Commons. This
> would mean that we could replace categories named in a single language with
> 'tags' named in all languages, which would make it both easier to
> contribute to Commons and better to find existing media already on Commons
> for the majority of our readers and editors who do not speak English.
>
> You can see some thoughts on this at:
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Multichill/Commons_Wikidata_roadmap
>
>
> Could we do something for those, who contributes with their media to
> > Wikipedia? Could we do it in one or two years?
> >
>
> ​Absolutely. Or, at least, I hope so. :-)
>
> ​Yours,
> --
> James D. Forrester
> Lead Product Manager, Editing
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>
> jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester
>
> On 31 July 2015 at 06:48, Juan de Vojníkov <juandevojni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to ask, if the ease of media handling (images, photographs
> on
> > Wikimedia Commons) is a priority for Wikimedia Foundation? If not, could
> it
> > be a priority? Recently we have seen a big step done for editors =
> > VisualEditor. Contributors have no longer study "wikicode" to be able to
> > contribute. That removes one of the technological barriers and it looks
> its
> > a priority for WMF.
> >
> > While part of contributing to Wikipedia is still contributing by images.
> I
> > am from Wikimedia Czech republic. We run many projects based on media
> > harvest or organizing *low barrier media harvest activities* to bring new
> > users to Wikipedia.
> >
> >
> > As our newbies are not technologically skilled and not native English
> > speakers, there is a big technology block to contribute to Wikipedia with
> > ease:
> >
> > 1) there is no app for mobile phones and tablets for image upload
> >
> > 2) newbies are lost, when they click on "Upload image" and they are
> > transferred from Wikipedia to Wikimedia Commons
> >
> > 3) Wikimedia Commons is in English - foreign language for our
> participants
> >
> > 4) biggest language barrier are categories, which are in English only, we
> > need to insert name of the category in our mother tongue
> >
> > 5) Wikimedia Commons environment is still pretty "techy"
> >
> > 6) Insert metadata, takes a long time:
> >
> > e.g.: you have an image of a cathedral in Des Moines, IW. 3 or 4 times
> you
> > have to insert same information: a) to file name (*Des Moines,
> > cathedral.jpg*), b) to file description (*en:** Cathedral in Des Moines,
> > Iowa, USA*/*es:* *La catedral de XY en Des Moines, Iowa, EEUU*) and c) to
> > the category (*category:Des Moines* or *Churches in Des Moines*,
> > *category:Cathedrals
> > in Iowa*).
> >
> > Its 2015, there are many social projects around us. You can handle images
> > much easier on these projects than on mother of all social projects -
> > Wikipedia. Big step was done with using images allready present in
> Commons.
> > Could we do something for those, who contributes with their media to
> > Wikipedia? Could we do it in one or two years?
> >
> > Thank you very much for your concern!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Juandev
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>
> --
> James D. Forrester
> Lead Product Manager, Editing
> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
>
> jforres...@wikimedia.org | @jdforrester
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